September 11, 2001

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I found this log on an old hard drive I dug out of a box, and being struck by the surreality of it I thought I should share.

'''Back then I was leaving my log running pretty much constantly, whether I was at the computer or not. I also had a macro set to "think time" every ten minutes, so my modem wouldn't time out, so it provides a handy timestamp throughout the log. It was based on the server time which I believe was about 15 minutes fast, but it still provides pretty useful context here.'''

WARNING:

'''This is an almost entirely raw log. The only things I've edited out are the local echoes of my commands, people's phone numbers and a very few private messages that were unrelated to what was going on at the time. Everything else, EVERYTHING that was said on a public channel that I was on, is recorded here for posterity.'''

'''This is also a very disturbing log. There are a lot of strong emotions -- a lot of anger -- put forth here. Please remember, before judging anyone by their words here, that this was logged ten years ago and that everyone was under an unbelieveable amount of stress at the time.'''

 Dirge says, "Any of you folks watching the news?"

 Scrapper says, "Yup."

 Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

 Victory Leo says, "No, why?"

 Defcon says, "No, Dirge, we're just sitting here drooling."

 Redshift says, "Yep."

 Always helpful Redshift says, "Yo Guest!"

 Dirge knows that most MUSHers do just sit around drooling, instead of, say, watching the news.

 Victory Leo says, "What is on the news that prompted the question?"

 Redshift says, "..."

 Dirge says, "Both World Trade Center buildings got hit by passenger jets."

 Dirge says, "About 40 minutes ago."

 Victory Leo blinks

 Redshift says, "2 planescrashed into the world trade center and exploded in huge burning fireballs."

 Redshift says, "100+ passenger planes."

 Airlift says, "I don't know if you guys already know, but..wait, you must already know then."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Yeah. Both of the top halves of both towers are still smoking."

<Public> Airlift says, "CNN"

<Public> Dirge says, "Apparently one was an American Airlines 767."

<Public> Defcon says, "Don't try hitting the websites, they're heavily overloaded. Turn on the TV."

<Public> Dirge says, "Those are huge."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Now the Pentagon too"

<Public> Redshift says, "White house and pentagon are being evacuated."

<Public> Defcon says, "Jesus, someone REALLY wants to piss us off."

<Public> Dirge says, "Holy crap."

<Public> Redshift says, "A fire at the Pentagon?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Heliport bomb, they said"

<Public> Dirge says, "Yahoo news just went apeshit. MUSH is now my only news source, unfortunately."

<Public> Redshift says, "Now a mall in Washington is on fire."

<Public> Defcon says, "I'm getting data from Lumthemad.net."

<Public> Defcon says, "Bomb went off on a Pentagon helipad."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "DAMN! Fist NY's World Trade Centers, Now the Pentagon and something else in DC."

<Public> Vortex says, "Washington Mall..."

<Public> Redshift says, "The only question I've got... What next??"

<Public> Vortex says, "World fucking war three...."

Tue Sep 11 10:09:09 2001

<Public> Redshift says, "Didn't the US drop bombs on Iraq a little while ago?"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "NY is out of power. On ABC some reporter is at lower Manhattan. No Cell phones work and very little pay phones. Now they say a plane crashed into the yard of the pentagon. I want to know who did it and I feel so fucking sorry for them."

<Public> Dirge is gonna go rouse some friends and see if he can get a TV news station on.

<Public> Redshift says, "CNN, Dirge."

<Public> Defcon says, "Confirmation: Someone crashed a plane at the pentagon."

<Public> Defcon says, "Washington Mall and the Pentagon are indeed on fire."

<Public> Redshift says, "They shut down ALL US airports."

<Public> Redshift says, "All flights in the country are cancelled."

<Public> Scrapper says, "On CNN, folks say they saw a chopper land at the Pentagon helipad, then an explosion."

<Public> Defcon says, "Too damn confused, nobody knows WTF is going on..."

<Public> Redshift says, "This is nuts."

<Public> Vortex says, "They could have another 5 planes up there about to suicide bomb..."

<Public> Redshift says, "Yeah. Damn."

<Public> Vortex says, "God."

<Public> Vortex says, "look at that fire at the Pentagon..."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Damn. I think alot of shit is gonna happen. ABC say a plane crashed in the vicinity of the pentagon."

<Public> Vortex says, "Into the Pentagon."

<Public> Vortex says, "It's burning now."

<Public> Redshift says, "A plane crashed into the Pentagon. Big fire."

<Public> Vortex says, "Wow..."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "ABC said that a, American Airlines plane crashed into the WTC. It was hijacked just after take off from Boston."

<Public> Redshift says, "Yup. 2 planes hit the WTC. One at the Pentagon, and theres a fire at the Washington Mall."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "no my next question, was it a big plane IE 737, 747, 757 or 767 or a smaller MD-77 and MD-80. er hold on. ABC just said Commercial Aircraft. hijacked out of Boston. That's it. probably a 727 or a 37 ."

<Public> DepthCharge thinks it was a 767.

<Public> Redshift says, "I dont' know, but it was like a 100 passenger plane or something."

Tue Sep 11 10:19:09 2001

<Public> DepthCharge says, "An organization called 'The Democratic front for the liberation of Palestine' is claiming responsibility apparently."

<Public> Defcon shakes his head. There goes any support Palestine might have gotten, except from the crazy folks.

<Public> Vortex says, "God"

<Public> Vortex says, "One tower just collasped."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "OH FUCK!!!!!"

<Public> Defcon says, "SHIT!"

<Public> Doubleback shakes his head. "NBC was just saying that a senior rep for them said they weren't responsible."

<Public> Redshift says, "... It collapsed..."

<Public> Victory Leo fails to see how attacking us is going to liberate Palestine

<Public> Vortex says, "..."

<Public> Vortex says, "Oh god..."

<Public> Vortex says, "How many must have died..."

<Public> Defcon says, "Be back shortly. I feel like calling family now."

<Public> Redshift says, "Sears tower has been evacuated."

<Public> Scrapper says, "No word on anything else there, though. Whether they were attacked or not, etc."

<Public> Redshift says, "It hasn't been attcked, they're evacuating so nobody dies if they get hit next."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "it was a 757 that hit the WTC."

Tue Sep 11 10:29:09 2001

<Public> Hack is not a happy customer

<Public> Stratosphere says, "American Airlines flight 11 from Boston to LA was hijacked and hit one tower. That's from reuters<sp>"

<Public> Hack says, "No One of the Fucking Towers has FALLEN! There are no more Twin Towers"

<Public> Redshift says, "That happned a little while ago."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "we know that. I saw it on ABC."

Connected players on channel <Public> are:

Beachcomber, Hack, Maul, Stratosphere, Vortex, Victory Leo, DepthCharge, Redshift, Doubleback, Chikome-Ollin (gagging), Burnout

<Public> Beachcomber says, "They're calling it a terrorist attack. Man, there goes any sense of safety I had left."

<Public> Redshift is in Canada. I'm safe.

<Public> Beachcomber is in Canada as well, Shift. Doesn't mean we're safe.

<Public> Redshift says, "I'm in Gander Newfoundland. Why would somebody attack here?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "You never know. Granted, /Newfoundland/ is probably safe... But lets say you're flying to the States or something."

<Public> Redshift says, "This is nucking futs..."

<Public> Vortex says, "capital Hill!"

<Public> DepthCharge erks.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "nucking futs........"

<Public> DepthCharge can't imagine what the retaliation for these terrorist acts is going to be.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "411 us Tex."

<Public> Redshift says, "What happened at capital hill?"

<Public> Vortex says, "Blew up..."

<Public> Vortex says, "Just then."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "SHIT!!!! Hey, Is one of the towers collapsed right?"

Tue Sep 11 10:39:09 2001

<Public> Redshift says, "Yes."

<Public> Doubleback says, "Neither ABC or NBC news is saying anything about capitol hill. Other than it being evacuated just like all the other key government offices."

<Public> DepthCharge only heard that there was an explosion at Capitol Hill.. then again, the Australian media could have stuffed up as he hasn't heard anything else either.

<Public> Redshift says, "On CNN, they just showed Capitol Hill.nothing but smoke."

<Public> Hack says, "Only the Pentagon in Washington has been hit"

<Public> Redshift says, "A mall in washington was hit too."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Americans, kiss your freedoms good bye"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "FEMA (the Federal Emergency something Agency) is going to take control"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Not good at all."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Management."

<Public> Vortex says, "Third explosion is what knocked over the tower..."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "damn, they say a car bomb just exploded outside the defense department."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "er state department."

<Public> Victory Leo has to go to work, I'm horribly late already

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw gets ready to move to Canada... Omega you still one

<Public> Beachcomber says, "See ya, Leo."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Later Leo"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "l8r Leo."

<Public> DepthCharge waves.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Not good... not good at all"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Obviously, yes."

<Public> Redshift says, "... DepthCharge?"

<Public> DepthCharge nods, "Yep?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw is in shock

Tue Sep 11 10:49:09 2001

<Public> Redshift waves. Just noticed you were here.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw was going to talk about my TP... But that's not important right now

<Public> Headstrong waves.

<Public> Vortex says, "GOF"

<Public> DepthCharge ahs and nods "2k5 was the only place I could think of to go for the latest news for all this stuff going on." DC is just shaking his head, not believing how planned this all is.

<Public> Vortex says, "BOTH TOWERS ARE DOWN!"

<Public> Vortex says, "There is no world trade center..."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Damn, did the 2nd tower just drop."

<Public> Redshift says, "both towers collapsed!"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Headstrong. You listening to the radio or TV?"

<Public> Vortex says, "There is no world trade center..."

<Public> Ruin says, "The south tower."

<Public> Vortex says, "North and South..."

<Public> Vortex says, "Both are down..."

<Public> Ruin says, "The other one just dropped? Great."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Gotta go to lab"

<Public> Vortex says, "Yep..."

<Public> Vortex says, "good god..."

<Public> Stratosphere oh lord. *prays*

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Holy shit."

<Public> Redshift says, "Yeah."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Does anyone else see WW3 happening soon?"

<Public> Redshift says, "Yep."

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil does...

<Public> Beachcomber afks to call his sister and let her know.

<Public> DepthCharge does.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I see alot of shit and alot of enlisted people being called in. anyone wanna bet?"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "There is no betting happening, then Pentagon was attacked."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "The crap is gonna hit the fan"

<Public> Redshift says, "If Canada goes to war with the US, I'll be dragged along... 2 weeks prior military service."

<Public> DepthCharge says, "There is also an unconfirmed report floating around that another plane has been hijacked.. but CNN is saying they cannot confirm that, so it could be false."

<Public> Ruin got pulled out of bed 10 minutes after the first plane hit the tower. "The entire military's already on alert, Stratosphere."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Every Airport in America is closed"

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil says, "The Crap has hit the fan."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "they're sending the planes to Canada...."

<Public> Rob Kennedy cries and hides under his bed

<Public> Hack is betting any plane that does not land will be shot out of the sky.

<Public> Redshift says, "NF is too far, Rob."

<Public> Ruin says, "There were 5 planes reported hijacked this morning, DepthCharge. They've accounted for 3 of them, and reports are saying that one's heading towards DC."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I wanna know what kind hit WTC. a 737 or a 57-67?"

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil expect they would shoot it down before it get there.

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil says, "&67/"

<Public> DepthCharge nodnods.

<Public> Rob Kennedy shudders

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil says, "767"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "a 67. At least it was not a 777. The 777 has a wingspan equivalent to 28 buses."

<Public> Redshift says, "Yeah."

<Public> Rob Kennedy stares at the picture of the smoke with the Statue of Liberty in the foreground, "Sweet crap..."

<Public> Vortex says, "Car bombing at the state department..."

<Public> DepthCharge errs.. "Stupid question.. All the people in the WTC are business types and stuff right? No one from 2k5 would have been in that area, would they?"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Isn't Moto in NYC?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7129089.html?tag=mn_hd"

<Public> Vortex says, "Nope.."

<Public> Vortex says, "he's staying with his girl.."

<Public> Ruin idles for the CINC's address.

<Public> Headstrong says, "I am. :) But far away from it."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Well, this was a nice day...."

<Public> Headstrong wows as he watches the news.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "and I was woke up at 8:30 CST by the radio."

Tue Sep 11 10:59:09 2001

<Public> Headstrong says, "We're on full terrorism alert."

<Public> Redshift says, "Pentagon collapsed."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Isn't it the US's policy to take no shit from terrorists?"

<Public> Vortex says, "Confirmation of an airplane crash 80 miles SE of Pittsburgh"

<Public> Beachcomber has heard a plane crashed on a chopper pad near the Petagon. Not into it. Could be wrong.

<Public> Rob Kennedy idles to call his friend back

<Public> DepthCharge pinches himself.. this all seriously can't be real.

<Public> Redshift says, "CNN, bottom of the screen 'Part of Pentagon collases'"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "FUCKING A...."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what about the statue of Liberty? still standing?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Another crash south of Pittsburgh."

<Public> Vortex says, "They think they've found another plane..."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Twin Towers are 'gone'."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what's in Pittsburgh"

<Public> Vortex says, "That's in the air..."

<Public> Headstrong says, "Damn, no more World Trade center."

<Public> Redshift says, "Nope."

<Public> Beachcomber is listening to the news on the radio.

<Public> Vortex says, "Penagon is on fire badly too..."

<Public> Hack says, "I'm guessing it might have been heading towards Philly"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "NY is on terrorist alert"

<Public> DepthCharge heys to Votrex, "Australian Prime Minister John Howard, who was in NYC at the time, is hiding in the Australian Embassy."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what's in Philly?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Dunno."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "The Penguins"

<Public> Stratosphere ohs. "+p 10 to 1 that Air force one is still in the air with fighter escort like flies on shit?

<Public> Stratosphere says, "oh, so Philly won't lose much huh? :)"

<Public> Rob Kennedy suddenly has a flashback to ID4

<Public> Stratosphere nods

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Yo Guest."

Tue Sep 11 11:09:08 2001

<Public> Beachcomber says, "A Palestinians group has claimed to be responsible."

<Public> Redshift says, "Another palne heading towards tghe Pentagon."

<Public> Headstrong says, "I wonder if this means I won't have to go to work for a while."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "F-15 going after it"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Still in the air heading there?"

<Public> DepthCharge nods to Moonracer and heard that.. then again, as Doubleback informed us, the senior leaders (is that the right word?) of the Palestinian group deny responsibility. So I have noo idea if they are responsible or not."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Either way a country is gonna go *BOOM* in the end"

<Public> Beachcomber nods, "A lot of people would love to claim responsibility, or deny it."

<Public> Hack says, "We are not going to know at least for a few days for sure who did it"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "they are calling a possible 747 crashed outside of Pittsburgh."

<Public> DepthCharge thinks anyone who claims responsibility and didn't do it.. are mad. "No way I would want to be on the receiving end of what the US is going to dish out."

<Public> Beachcomber nods to Strats, "There was one south of Pittsburgh."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "that's the one I am talking to."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "One word, DC: Martyr."

<Public> Stratosphere tries to find a 12 v adaptor.

<Public> Beachcomber just talked to his mum, and she brought up an interesting point. If Air Force One is the only one allowed to fly, if terrorists had a anti-aircraft missile stashed away, it could be easy pickings.

<Public> Rob Kennedy just watched the plane hit the tower, holy poo.

<Public> Redshift nods.

<Public> DepthCharge says, "I don't want to think about Airforce One being shot down.."

<Public> Ruin says, "You're not going to hit a plane flying at 40,000 feet with a shoulder-launched SAM."

<Public> Beachcomber doesn't either.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Isrial just evacuated all their Missions"

<Public> Scrapper nods. "Ruin's right."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Well then what if they have a plane stashed away? Or something better than a shoulder-launched SAM? You get the idea."

<Public> Defcon nods. Stinger-AA missiles simply don't reach that far. You can pop copters and low-flying aircraft, but not AF1.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "And Germany is getting ready for a possible strike against them"

<Public> Defcon says, "If you think AF1 doesn't have six fighters flying escort, BC, you're crazy."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Everyone's watching this, right?"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "how much you wanna bet that AF-1 is flying so high that it is safe. Plus, I think it is an 747 with some heavy fucking mods to her."

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Public> Ruin says, "That's grasping at straws, Beach. AF One isn't going to get shot down."

<Public> Vortex says, "yes...."

<Public> Beachcomber is listening to it on the radio.

<Public> Scrapper nods. How's it over, there, DS?

<Public> Mentally undressing you as she speaks, Bug says, "Yep. Anyone from here there?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "And you get my point, Defcon. It's still a possibility."

<Public> DepthCharge asks, "Who is Germany getting ready to strike against?"

<Public> Scrapper says, "Germany's getting ready to be -struck- against."

<Public> Vortex says, "WW3....."

<Public> Beachcomber would be shocked if it happened as well, of course.

<Public> J-Turn says, "Manhatten has been sealed off. No one in, or out."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what's going on? I live in the middle of fing no where called missouri."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "We're in threatcon delta, which means a terrorist attack has already occurred, so we're totally locked down. I can't get through to home. Thank God for the internet."

<Public> Scrapper nods.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Germany is getting ready if someone comes after them, Parinoia just hit the roof"

<Public> Defcon says, "Tell your mates I'm lighting a candle for 'em just in case, DS."

<Public> Ruin says, "Get prepared to get kicked up, DS. I'm already at Bravo."

<Public> Defcon says, "You too, Ruin."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Airplanes have reportedly crashed into the World Trade Center twin towers, both of which has collapsed, along with the Pentagon."

<Public> Ruin says, "And word is that we'll be at Alpha by noon."

<Public> Stratosphere looks at Ruin and Ds "Translate those to english here.

<Public> Drag Strip says, "I guess we register them differently, Ruin... Delta is the highest."

<Public> Defcon says, "Means they're ready to shoot anyone who looks even vaguely terrorist-like, Strato :>"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Basically we're being told to watch out cause someone is killing Americans."

Tue Sep 11 11:19:08 2001

<Public> Redshift says, "Lots fo Americans."

<Public> Ruin ahs. "Alpha's our highest. We run off of the Pentagon's, and they use Alpha for the highest."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Also, a car bomb went off outside the State department, and reported "large plane crashes" in somerset county Penn."

<Public> Defcon says, "Shit. Someone confirm that a United Airlines flight just smacked into Camp David, please."

<Public> Sixshot says, "Haven't heard of it, Defcon."

<Public> Vortex says, "Fuck fuck fuck..."

<Public> Mentally undressing you as she speaks, Bug says, "News here said it was official that any international flights trying to enter US airspace would be shot down."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "actually, the car bomb was discounted. It was an unsubstantiated rumor."

<Public> Sixshot says, "Relying on a MUSH for your news is a pretty bad idea."

<Public> Mentally undressing you as she speaks, Bug says, "What's this about camp david??"

<Public> Scrapper heard the same thing, Bran.

<Public> J-Turn says, "No news on Camp David."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "All I know is some major shit is gonna happen"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "news to me. They are sayignt he car bomb did not explode of the state department."

<Public> Drag Strip idles to watch news.

<Public> Defcon is getting his news from the TV, with supplements from the LtM site.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "er st. joe"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "Whichever terrorist organization that claims this is going to die."

<Public> Scrapper has the tube on ABC, too.

<Public> Mentally undressing you as she speaks, Bug says, "News here says a car bomb and a fourth explosion near the trade towers."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "as well as any nation that tries to defend them."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "shit, I just remembers. Bandit is a airforce pilot based out of Omaha. And he's gonna be a father."

<Public> Bran Murdoch's brother is in Saudi Arabia with the Air Defense Artillery as a lawyer...

<Public> Drag Strip is with III MEF in Okinawa.

<Public> Stratosphere is gonna give bandit a call.

<Public> Drag Strip hasn't been ordered to go check out his rifle, but it looks like I might be going on-vacation here pretty soon.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Israel has evacuated their embassies."

<Public> Headstrong knows his friend is probably sitting at home getting all of his guns ready.

<Public> Rob Kennedy is kinda glad he's Canadain, but is gonna go buy a gun on payday

<Public> J-Turn says, "Los Angeles and San Francisco are reported to be 'on alert' for terrorist attacks."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "damnit. "Anybody know Bandit's number? the one I have has been disconnected."

<Public> Mentally undressing you as she speaks, Bug says, "Any news on this 747 heading for the pentagon? We haven't heard if the CAPs got to them yet."

<Public> Ruin already made his posts, DS. "Shit's still happening, though."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "no word on the 47 Bug."

<Public> Bug says, "Danke."

<Public> Defcon suggests that DS put up a post on the vacation board as well.

<Public> Headstrong says, "This is going to be a movie in a few years."

<Public> Beachcomber nods to Headstrong, "That's true."

<Public> Scrapper will see everyone later, though my job hardly seems worth it at this point. Ruin, DS, take care, guys.

<Public> Bug says, "True. Sick, but true."

<Public> Beachcomber waves.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "The Ambassador Bridge and the Windsor/Detroit Tunnel has been closed."

<Public> Drag Strip will ASAP.

<Public> Bug says, "Camp david's been hit. 747 is 2 minutes from the pentagon."

<Public> Headstrong says, "None of my friends are going to get home anytime soon."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Whats Camp David?"

<Public> Stratosphere is gonna head into town where he has a T1 network to use. Ruin, DS take care if yer called in.

<Public> J-Turn was supposed to be flying to Detroit today. Hurt his eye, therefore the trip was cancelled. Looks like it was fortuante for him, so to speak.

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "presidential retreat...."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Sheet"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "a united airlines plane went down near camp david."

<Public> Beachcomber nods to J-Turn, "You'd have been rerouted to Windsor, probably. Coulda visited me."

<Public> J-Turn says, "Has Camp David strike been confirmed?"

<Public> Vortex says, "No"

<Public> Vortex says, "CNN has said nothing about it"

Tue Sep 11 11:29:07 2001

<Public> Defcon says, "Bug, where'd you get the data?"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "anyone have a police scanner??"

<Public> Sixshot says, "Like I said, don't rely on a MUSH for your information."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "if ya do, turn into 470.6875"

<Public> Bug says, "of the '47? cnn."

<Public> Rob Kennedy shudders at the chaos

<Public> Headstrong grumbles. None of my channels are working, cept for CBS.

<Public> Defcon says, "The Camp David thing."

<Public> Bug says, "We've got CNN on channel 7, ABC on 9. And camp david from a canadian. Where is camp david? pensylvania?"

<Public> Drag Strip will stay logged on, but is going to watch the news. If something comes up, could someone ICQ me please?

<Public> Ruin says, "What's your number?"

<Public> Stratosphere has ICQ DS. what's yer number.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what's yer's Ruin?"

<Public> Ruin is at work now, so I'm getting pretty constant updates.

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Scratch that, I just lost recepction. <HFP>"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what's yer number. mine is[icq removed]"

<Public> Bug says, "DS= gyro?"

<Public> Bug can icq DS.

<Public> Drag Strip says, "[icq removed] I think."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "The planes had people on them too didn't they?"

<Public> Beachcomber nods.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Scuse me while I go join to Military"

<Public> Beachcomber nods.

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods.

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "want company, Rob?"

<Public> J-Turn says, "Downtown Kansas City get shut down in reponse to the attacks on the coast."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Sure, only if we get matching Militant Tattoo's"

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "50,000 people work at the World Trade Center. Little sad tidbit of information for all."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane doesn't want to go anywhere in LA.

Jesse> <OOC> Cee De La Rosa says, "This is insane."

<Public> Bran Murdoch is glad that Atlanta's not all that high a priority target....

<Public> Rob Kennedy shudders.

<Public> Stratosphere tries to get ahold of Bandit.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yeah, all the airports cross the US are shut down, they're saying. Don't blame 'em for shutting downtown KC, don't want people trying to take off from KCI and coming down on city hall or some such."

<Public> Bran Murdoch wishes his bro's base hadn't been locked down already...info from him would be nice. Just hearing 'hi, they haven't bombed us yet.'

<Public> Vortex says, "Taliban are gonna make a statement soon..."

<Public> Drag Strip was able to call home, but got cut off mid-transmission. If anyone could call up [phone removed] or [ext removed] and tell them that Bill is fine, it'd be much appreciated.

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Who would be there?"

<Public> J-Turn says, "All of our city offices and the federal building are clump together in downtown KC. Nothing but foot traffic is curently allowed in that area."

<Public> Stratosphere would, but can't afford LD calls. sorry DS.

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana's snookems was called in :(Ruin and Drag Strip likely will be to. I hate this world.

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Bill, Debbie, Annie, and Emily (Dad, mom, kid sisters)."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "DS: I'll call. :)"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Thanks. :)"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "and I live north of KC about 40 miles. :( And Krystal lives in North KC."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Thanks, Poopdeck, I was going to do something illegal here at work."

Tue Sep 11 11:39:09 2001

<Public> Defcon has a calling card around here somewhere :)

<Public> Bug says, "What state is camp david in?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane is in LA right now. I don't even wanna look at downtown.

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Maryland"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "They're unsure if the crash 80 miles south of Pittsburgh is related to the terrorist attack or not."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "It's really fishy, BC."

<Public> Rob Kennedy shudders

<Public> Beachcomber nods, "Obviously. I'm just quoting the news."

<Public> Blaster says, "I'd be very surprised if it wasn't, I don't believe in coincidence"

<Public> J-Turn says, "The Pittsburgh crash may have been unrelated, since the state of air traffic control is ...screwed up, at best."

<Public> Andi Lassiter has been listening to this sincee 10 til 8.

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Texas time."

<Public> Bug says, "Anything over there from that 747?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Second bottom post on the CNN website: Large plane crashed 80 miles south of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, but it was unknown if this crash was connected to terrorist attacks."

<Public> Andi Lassiter nods.

<Public> Stratosphere Was woken up at 8:30 AM by his radio to this.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Sources say a second plane was heading toward the Pentagon; F-16 jets were in the air monitoring it."

<Public> Defcon says, "You say 'was'?"

<Public> Vortex says, "lost contact with 2 planes over LA..."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Both lines are just the answering machine, DS. :)"

<Public> Beachcomber just C+Ped that, Defcon. Take it as you will.

<Public> Bug says, "A bomb's just been found in a school..."

<Public> Defcon says, "Okay."

<Public> Beachcomber nods and is hearing that right now about the bomb.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "huh, where???"

<Public> Excessively Questioning Police yells, "Get in mah belly!"

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "There are going to be all kinds of reports everywhere today."

<Public> Bug says, "A high school."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods.

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "PF 89 building?"

<Public> Sixshot says, "A bomb in a school? Probably a hoax."

<Public> Defcon says, "Huh? That's where some of the CBS reporters were."

<Public> Andi Lassiter is listening to the CBS feed.

<Public> J-Turn checks in with his office. He was supposed to fly to Detroit today, and obviously didn't go.

<Public> Sixshot says, "There's no correlation there, world trade centers collapse = bomb in school?"

<Public> Ravage says, "...Holy. Fuck."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "It was a building next to the school. Either a bomb or a gas leak."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "The school is three blocks from the world trade center. There is quite probably utilities having problems around there."

<Public> Bug says, "2 jets missing in LA, jet down in pittsburg, one down in pennsylvania..."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "And my grammar falls thru the floor."

<Public> Poopdeck is listening to the radio reports amid nice upbeat music. Can only listen to so much jibba-jabba without getting any new information.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "4 planes were hijacked to date."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Pittsburg is in Pennsylvania."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "American Airlines has reported that they quote 'lost' two aircraft carrying 156 people."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "How the hell do you lose a jet?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "QUite easily."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "When some maniacs with submachineguns take over."

<Public> J-Turn says, "What airline did the Pittsburg plane belong to?"

<Public> Ravage says, "Into the world trade center."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "They're listing flights ."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Don't know, J-Turn. Model is either a 747 or a 767."

<Public> Bug says, "Rumors of 5 total hijackings around the world today. (4 confirmed)"

<Public> Defcon says, "767 is what I heard."

<Public> Beachcomber nods.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "American Flight 77 and American Flight. ### Easily, storm, losing of the ID tagger. American airlines just issued. 2 AM planes, crashed killing 164 passengers and crew members. So far on the radio."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Okay, I need to do some work now. Sorry."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Possibly a new plane jsut crashed in PA"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "See ya, Andi. Keep well."

<Public> Ravage says, "Yeah, what's up with the plane in PA?"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "see ya andi."

<Public> Bug says, "All airports in the UK and mexico are shut down. unconfirmed report that the pitts jet was shot down."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "still finding more info on it."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Also, all ports on Canada are closed as well."

<Public> Drag Strip idles for a second.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "PA mighta been enroute and went down."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "SS are walking the streets in DC with machine guns out int he open."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yeah, Canada's taking the international traffic."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "ss = secret service."

Tue Sep 11 11:49:09 2001

<Public> Poopdeck assumed it wasn't Nazis. :>

<Public> Defcon smirks.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "all NY off duty firefighters have been called in."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "pitts jets?"

<Public> Drag Strip is back.

<Public> J-Turn says, "News reports that the 767 that went down SE of Pittsburgh WAS a hijacked airplane."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Oh goody."

<Public> Poopdeck thought as much.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "the worst thing is, this may only be the begining"

<Public> Airlift says, "They're saying Camp David was hit as well."

<Public> Bug says, "Apparently, there were 20,000 people in the WTC at the time."

<Public> Redshift says, "Dayam."

<Public> Airlift says, "Bush was in Sarasota Florida though, reading to children."

<Public> Bug hasn't heard anything seriously confirmed on that, though, AL. And nothing about this '47 heading for the pentagon.

<Public> Bran Murdoch must admit...my mind's going up in flames. I want us to do war on whoever is responsible for this.

<Public> Sixshot says, "Aside from any new developments with the still missing planes, I doubt anything else will happen. Country's in lockdown mode."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "There was a plane heading to the Pentagon according to CNN."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "What has happened on this day in history?"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yeah, the pentagon was being tightlipped."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "We'll take care of em, Bran. Just point us in the right direction."

<Public> Defcon says, "Osama Bin Ladin condemned to execution. Camp David Accords."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Who are we going to go to war with? This is terrorism... They don't have countries"

<Public> Airlift says, "If America doesn't declare war on these people, then America's people will declare war on the government."

<Public> Redshift says, "Omama Bib who?"

<Public> Sixshot says, "You can't really "declare war" on terrorists."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Well, you can in the unoffical sense."

<Public> Sixshot says, "No country will take responsibility for it."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Osama Bin Laden. Vocal anto American."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I dunno about that. Exactly."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "Osama Bin Laden."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "hunt em down and bust some caps"

<Public> Ravage says, "Are the world trade center towers both completely destroyed?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Yes."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Yup"

<Public> Bug says, "Palestinian splinter group has taken responsibility for it."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Two possible outcomes for this... America closes its doors to outsiders..."

<Public> Airlift says, "I don't know about 'completely'..they're down though."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Or FEMA takes over"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "They're fucking DEAD."

<Public> Vortex says, "DS..."

<Public> Vortex says, "Go kick some ass for me"

<Public> Sixshot says, "Calm."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Anyone who take responsibility for this better be hiding in a really deep bomb shelter."

<Public> Ravage says, "Both of them? ........wow........damn................"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "That, on the other hand, could probably be arranged, with the approval of wherever they are. But, fat chance they'd get it."

<Public> Airlift gives DS his arsenal.. "Kill them all."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "they're gone. We don't even need bombs to deal with them. Just call in our allies, and send every special forces agency against them and end their lives in nightmares of blood and fire."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Yes. Both of them. No longer in existance."

<Public> Sixshot says, "Who we gonna kill? You know what happens when you assume."

<Public> Airlift says, "Afghanistan has already refused access to get Ben Ladin."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "the World Trade Center are no longer then 110 stories tall."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Makes an ass of U and Me."

<Public> Sixshot says, "Yes."

<Public> Airlift says, "But we've got a Bush in office, and it won't matter what Afganistan says. We'll invade the country to get revenge for this, mark my words."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Lifter, honestly, I don't think that would stop the US."

<Public> Defcon votes we ask the Russians if they want to help.

<Public> Sixshot says, "We will not invade a country."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Either by invasion or by Grey Ops, the US will find the guy that did this, and kill him."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "The fact they took responsibility may have it as a ruse by a third party to eliminate the other two"

<Public> Defcon says, "Are you in the State Department, Sixshot?"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Grey ops... I like that."

<Public> Airlift says, "Oh yes, we will invade the country to get him."

<Public> Sixshot says, "Cute, Defcon."

<Public> Defcon says, "Yes. So be quiet and don't talk out of your navel when people are venting."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "OK, keep the snipes to pages please."

<Public> Sixshot says, "Venting serves what purposes?"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I bet nothing gets done in classes today."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "then that nation is assumed to be in alliance with a force that attacked the United States of America. If Afghanistan wants war...."

<Public> DepthCharge hugs Defcon and Sixshot, "Happy thoughts people!! :)"

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Yo Guest!"

<Guests> Guest says, "Hey."

<Public> Sixshot would rather stay calm and think logically than scream loudly, "They're gonna DIE!"

<Public> Rob Kennedy thinks of Transformers.... bowing things up :)

<Public> Poopdeck says, "DepthCharge! Missed you, man!"

<Guests> Beachcomber says, "Hope you're listening to the news, Guest."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "United FLight 93 was the one that crashed in PA."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Pray for anyone in the armed services right now"

<Guests> Guest has been since it started up.

<Public> Airlift says, "A friend of mine elsemu* just got activated, he's airforce."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Pray for the souls of who they set us loose on."

<Public> Redshift says, "Happy thoughts? All those people... Who woke up to a normal day and are now dead? And so many more injured, jobless, and horrified?"

<Guests> Beachcomber nods.

<Public> Drag Strip says, "At least let's not bitch at each other, is what he meant, shift."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "DS: Only if they're innocent. :>"

<Guests> Guest was hopin to find Nettwerk connected.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Not to be cold hearted or anything, but do you know what this is going to do to the economy"

<Guests> Beachcomber says, "She's on vacation, if I recall."

<Public> Stratosphere is, as he has a cousin in the Navy, (Rank Commander) that is a flight instructor based out of DFW, a cousin int he army based in Germany, Bandit in Omaha that is in the AF. And DS and Ruin.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "My fiancee is online with some friends from DC"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "I think we'll get that increase in defense spending."

Tue Sep 11 11:59:08 2001

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "One fo the only outcomes I can see from this is more deatha dn war"

<Public> Airlift says, "Not as much as you think Razorclaw."

<Public> DepthCharge noodles Shift, "What moonie said. Probably should have phrased my 'dont fight' pose better."

<Public> Bug says, "Uh... can't be UF 93... that's got a different start and end point to the one that crashed near pitts."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what's the word Razor?"

<Guests> Guest nods. "Was hoping maybe she'd stopped in."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "that's what they just said on the radio."

<Public> Bug says, "Nope, it did... thish means this news site's got the wrong flight :P"

<Public> Blaster says, "and to be blunt, the economic result of this is nothing when compared to the sheer loss of life"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Most of the buildings have been cleared... DC is in lock down"

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<Guests> Beachcomber says, "Sorry. She hasn't connected since the sixth."

<Guests> Guest says, "S'ok. How's everyone here?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Some of her friends go to NYU..."

<Public> Bug sees the passenger count on the two WTC planes.

<Guests> Beachcomber says, "We're all discussing the situation, really."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Yea, the stock market suspended says. like it matters, I'm already losing money from that. *mutters about Wal-Mart stock being under 50 bucks ATM""

<Guests> Guest nods.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "One of her friends is two miles from the towers... or where the towers were"

<Public> Airlift says, "A friend of mine's father is a Defense Contractor..is at the Pentagon every other week. Thankfully, he's home this week at Tyndall AFB."

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "We're all a bit shaken, not stirred."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "what's that bug?"

<Public> Bug says, "92 on one, 64 on the other. That's flight crews included."

<Public> Airlift says, "The economy will grow from this guys, especially if America responds with an outward push to knock down their enemies."

<Guests> Guest says, "Well.. hugs, love, and prayer for ya'all then."

<Public> Stratosphere nods "Yea, stock and all will rise.

<Guests> Beachcomber says, "You too, Guest."

<Public> Rob Kennedy munchies some crab

<Public> Airlift says, "I'm not a normally violent person, but give me a gun and the chance, and I'll kill every one of Ben Ladin's men I can get before I'm killed."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane had a friend of the family that was working in the WTC. He wasn't therte today, thankfully.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw would like to tell everyone to relax, but since he can't... I ain't going to be bossy

<Public> Stratosphere heads to teach dance class, Swing Dance Class. :)

<Public> Bug says, "F16 just downed a plane heading to DC..."

<Public> Airlift nods, "I had heard they scrambled."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "the bad thing about this is that our freedoms are about to take a beating from this"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "My god...."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane is finally seeing the planes actually hit the Towers..

<Public> Poopdeck says, "DON'T PANIC! :) KEEP FROSTY! :)"

<Public> Beachcomber is of the opinion that I have no problem with freedoms being taken away in a crisis like this.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Appearently, this is for Americas actions in the Middle East"

<Public> Headstrong listens to some Dimmu Borgir, Architecture of a Genocidal Nature.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Whoops. :>"

<Public> Airlift says, "I have to agree.."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "If I were in America, that is."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I do... That's what they want"

<Public> Poopdeck has just set a new @poll!

<Public> Airlift says, "My freedoms aren't more important to me than thousands of lives."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "There we go. :)"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Tane di you rercord it?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane stares at Strat.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Then why are you afraid that the freedoms will take a hit? Personally, I'm /glad/."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I understand your point and agree with it... Its time to close our borders and quit playing nice with the world"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "United Flight 93, Newark NJ to SF crashed in PA."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "anyway, I'm out."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Most of the Air Force is on alert.. anything that isn't identified & detained gets shot down. Although I'm thinking its more 'anything that's still up there by now is coming down forcibly'"

<Public> Poopdeck eyes.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "See you, Strats."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "will bbl."

<Public> Defcon says, "Probably, Octane. The FAA issued a civil air lockdown. Planes in the air were ordered to land at the nearest airfield."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Its sad that America has to hit its own people to save them"

<Public> Airlift nods

<Public> Beachcomber nods to Rob, "This is true. But required."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "In my opinion, of course."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And that's what the terrorist want... Us cowering and giving up our freedoms"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "God damn cowards"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Don't mistake cowering with being smart. Is it cowardly to defend yourself?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "What the US needs to do,and hopefully will do, is finally stop bitching with itself and focus on one thing, one goal."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "But regardless, this isn't the main issue."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "they're going to get more than they want...heh, Casper Weinberger has said it's important to find out who did it, and destroy them as quickly as possible."

Tue Sep 11 12:09:07 2001

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "and that's an old Sec of Defense...the current one isn't going to embarrass himself by saying different."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw wonders how long before they call in the National Guard cvountrywide

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Its on alert"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Think it'll be federalized?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I don't know... If it does..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Well, its time to see what Bush is made of"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I'm just glad its him in the White House rather than Gore... Gore won't have a clue"

<Public> Headstrong says, "That's a nice Presidential test."

<Public> Bug says, "tom clancy's on cnn now..."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "what's he saying?"

<Public> Drag Strip decides to spring for cable after this mess is over with.

<Public> Bug says, "Um.... he's tlaking about debt of honour... the plane thing, after a talk with a USAF officer."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Gore is still in the air isn't he>?"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "er..Bush"

<Public> Bug thinks tom clancy won't be writing anymore books...

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Bush on his way to NORAD... He will be safe under a mountain"

<Public> Bug says, "Unless someone has a 15mT nuke handy..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And I'm sure there is a squad of fighters providing him with air support"

<Public> DreadTread says, "what happened?"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I assume it hasn't occurred to anyone that this is probably about all that's gonna happen today. FEMA's gonna roll into New York, sure, but DC wasn't a bad hit, the rest of the country's not a target, they got the financial center and the government center, at least as well as they're going to get it now that the armed forces are alerted and up, same with all the airports. If anything gets off the ground, it's gonna be a private plane, and it's gonns get shot down if it doesn't land fast. Anything else is gonna have to be planted bombs. And at a totally speculative shot in the dark, this was the big move."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Borders between the US and Canada, and the US and Mexico are still, for the most part, open suprisingly. Although they're on the strictest alert."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Poopy.

<Public> Drag Strip read debt of honor. DIfference was that that was a guy on an empty plane.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Dreadtread, the US just got brutally attack"

<Public> Redshift says, "Brutal is right."

<Public> Bug says, "Airports in mexico, canada, US, and UK are shut down."

<Public> Vortex says, "The World Trade Centers no longer exist Tara."

<Public> Bug says, "And an 80 ft stretch of the pentagon."

<Public> DreadTread says, "what sort of attack?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "UK is locking down too?"

<Public> Doubleback says, "NYC Trade Centers. There are others elsewhere."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Hijacked planes."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Terrorist, Tread."

<Public> Vortex says, "Two planes flew into the trade centers towers."

<Public> Vortex says, "They both collapsed."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "A nice overview: http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/worldtrade.crash/index.html"

<Public> DreadTread says, "bomb, missile?"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "The WTC is gone."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "The plane was the bomb"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "No. Planes."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "747 on one of them, Tread."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Hijacking planes and then smashing them into buildings."

<Public> Vortex says, "One also sucide bombed the Pentagon."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "With passengers."

Tue Sep 11 12:19:09 2001

<Public> Redshift says, "Planes, DT. They crashed directly into the buildings. They've collapsed."

<Public> Vortex says, "Yes."

<Public> Vortex says, "With passengers..."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "There's also no one to really go up against, unless you can get a witness, who all died on the planes. We can get faces and names probably from airport security, but anyone calling in to take credit for this is just getting what they want if the US goes after them."

<Public> DreadTread says, "this is gonna be the start of something very bad."

<Public> Airlift says, "767's."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "They flew a plane into each tower of the WTC. No need for bombs or missiles. It just sheered the superstructure and weakened it enough to drop it."

<Public> J-Turn works on getting info on the Pittsburgh PA flight...has a source 8 miles from it.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Any ever see The Postman?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Yeah"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "After the planes hit, there were explosions, presumably from bombs, at the base of each tower which finished them off and caused them to collapse."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Rob.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yeah, the main support seems to have given way and they just dropped straightish down."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Something like this was the cause of that"

<Public> DepthCharge fell asleep in the Postman.

<Public> Drag Strip never saw it.

Tatyana (Tatty) pages: you're nowhere near where that plane crashed are you?

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "America fell from a strike and BAM everything thereafter was fought in a wastland of a country"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "This is crazy... Normally I don't lose my temper... But what the fuck did we do to these people"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane is thinking we'll more turn out like The Siege.

<Public> Airlift says, "No."

<Public> Victory Leo returns. They evac'd most of Pittsburgh

<Public> Airlift says, "America wouldn't 'fall' from something like this."

<Public> Bran Murdoch hugs Vic Leo.

<Public> J-Turn says, "The 767 that crashed SE of Pittsburg proports to have not actually crashed, since it's pieces were everywhere, in chunks, at least 3 pieces far apart from each other."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Just killing people for the sake of it now"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "America only tried to arbitrate a peace in a couple centuries plus conflict."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "But America could fall from WW3 if Nukes and what not get involved"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Raz: The best explanation I've heard lately is "the anniversary of when they signed the treaty between palestine and isreal at camp david""

<Public> Airlift says, "America is a strange creature..it will let you kick it..and kick it..and kick it. ANd it will cower in fear. But then you kick it one too many times, and it swells up into this huge monster, and it rips you to shreds, it rips your families to shreds, it rips the nation you came from to shreds, and it makes sure you and yours never kick again."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Everyone would fall from nuclear war."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Lift. "And this seems to have been the last kick."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Except cockroaches"

<Public> Bug says, "You forget: the US has been kicking a lot of countries for years. NATO HQ in Brussels has been evacuated of all non-essential personnel, too."

<Public> Redshift says, "And rats."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "There's gonna be no nukes, thankee, and I'd bet money against war."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "They were saying that another plane out of PIttsburgh was hijacked and is circling Dallas or something"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Gas prices are about to sky rocket... again"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Its going to be shot down"

<Public> Beachcomber bets money against nuclear war as well. If I'm wrong... no-one will be able to say 'I told you so'.

<Public> DreadTread says, "why in the hell was it not shot down before it got within 5 miles of the Pentagon?"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Because cockroach cells only multiply 1/7 of the time, not like everyone elses whose are constantly doing it. (So I heard once, someone might have been shoveling bullshit)"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "it was on an approach to the airport, DT."

<Public> Bug says, "US-Mexico border's just shutr down."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "America is in lockdown"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Orchid would know about the cockroach thing :)"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Air traffic goes past all these places quite often. Just look normal enough until you cross a certain boundary, then deviate course and drop in on 'em."

<Public> Bug says, ", ,"

<Public> Bug says, "Bah."

<Public> Rob Kennedy has 30 International flights stopping here.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I'm betting money against war period."

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<Public> DreadTread says, "I'm not"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Full war, I'll go agasint, a counterstrike, I will not."

<Public> Bug says, "report of smoke in NYC city hall subway station,possible hijackings of 2 British planes, plane sighted over DC Capitol building but "veered away" and disappeared"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "It was terrorists, no one to war with."

<Public> Bug says, "All unconfirmed."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Poopdeck, the American people are going to cry for revenge... The Middle East is going to be in trouble..."

<Public> DreadTread nods. And Bush is not going to want to be seen as a wimp, as his father was

<Admin> Tatyana gives vic 10 minutes to say she's nowhere near where that plane went down in pittsburgh :)

<Public> Victory Leo says, "You can't go to war over terrorists. hunt them down, yes, but that's not war"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "No, America is about to take over the Middle East"

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "It was 80 miles south of Pittsburgh"

<Admin> Tatyana says, "Which is not where you are. Right?"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "That'd open up a whole new can of worms, Raz."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Like I've said. Anyone who claims responsibility will be hurting, either by invasion of wherever they might be, or grey ops killing them in their sleep."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "It all depends on who was behind it fully"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw is sick of having our nose bloodied by this crap

<Public> Headstrong says, "Speaking of roaches, this customer dude a printer in to be returned yesterday, 10 minutes later, about 40 of them came crawling out of the box."

<Admin> Tatyana says, "you're -in- pittsburgh?"

<Admin> Victory Leo lives just north of PGH and works on the north side of the city. So no, nowhere near.

<Admin> Tatyana says, "OKay."

<Admin> Rodimus Prime says, "So, what happened with the pitt plane anyways? I hadn't heard much on that yet."

<Public> Drag Strip icks.

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "if there's no co-operation from that part of the world, it might just end in a war."

<Public> DreadTread says, "yuck!"

<Public> Headstrong says, "dude=brought"

<Public> Redshift says, "Eww."

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "But they evacuated all the federal buildings and skyscrapers, and a bunch of other businesses including mine shut down."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "VL's right, and even that's sorta tricky. It's gonna be a while before we get straight who actually did it."

<Public> DreadTread nods at Bran.

<Admin> Rodimus Prime says, "What terrorist would waste their resources on pittsburg anyways?"

<Public> Headstrong says, "The guy even looked like a roach come to think of it."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw smiles... "Thanks Headstrong... I needed to laugh and go ewww

<Public> Inferno says, "I take it you guys've heard?"

<Admin> Tatyana doesn't think they know whathappened with the PA plane yet

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Thats just messed up."

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "It was a Cleveland->Chicago flight that was apparently hijacked and then crashed down here. They were speculating it might have been intended for the Sears Tower."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Its the only they we are talking about, Inf"

<Public> DepthCharge looks at Headstrong and has images of 'ED' from Men In Black..

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Bran, bull."

<Admin> Rodimus Prime says, "aah. So it just crashed down prematurely? Or was it shot down?"

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "Crashed. No one knows why."

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "Maybe Wesley Snipes was on board and stopped them."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Regardless, the US is going to lockdown our borders for a while... Something I've thought we should have done for a while..."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "think about it Poopdeck. Are people being rational? They want blood and fire. They'll get it too, because the politicians want it and want to keep people happy."

<Admin> Rodimus Prime says, "One can only hope"

<Public> Headstrong nods. He had no teeth either, kinda freaky.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "You know who Kaddafi is?"

Tue Sep 11 12:29:08 2001

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "It landed in a sparsely populated area, clearly not a target"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "a guy who didn't do anything at this level."

<Admin> Tatyana says, "Nah. Bruce Willis. He's having a VERY BAD DAY!"

<Public> Drag Strip thought it was a Q.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Lets just say lots of things are gonna go boom"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Any word on other countries reaction (other than the UK) locking down?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The name is familiar."

<Public> Inferno says, "I know it's probably already been said, and I know some of you folks don't shine to these things too well, but if you got a prayer hidin' in you somewhere, don't forget to include the men and women staring this monster dead in the face and roaring to kick some ass, and that's New York's Finest, the firefighters."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Traffic getting out of the city was surprisingly civil. It was packed but everyone was letting everyone else get where they needed to go. As an idle observation."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yeah, but Libya was purported to be a terrorist hideout and we didn't go to war with Libya. Whatever country our terrorist 'friends' hole up in will be safe from attack."

<Public> Airlift says, "Who was saying something about Dallas?"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Neat, VL."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "I did"

<Public> Bug says, "Libya as a terrorist country was basically put forth by reagan in his reellection bid."

<Public> Bran Murdoch doubts it. "Maybe if this hadn't been so drastic, but as is....any nation that gets in the way is likely to get stepped on."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "They were saying on the radio that the plane hijacked out of PGH was circling Dallas"

<Public> Inferno says, "According to a friend in the service of an admin here, United still has 2 planes unaccounted for..."

Airlift (Q) pages: Is that for sure?

You paged Airlift with 'I have no idea'.

<Public> Cyclonus heard that Canada shut down their Air Traffic Control in response to the US shutting theirs down. Looks like there's technically no non-military aircraft in the skies over all of North America.

<Public> Inferno says, "Military service, that is..."

<Public> DreadTread says, "and not even that, most places"

<Public> Bug says, "They're assuming that the plane that hit the pentagon was UA 175"

<Public> Rob Kennedy nods at Cyc, "We're housing 30 International flights in St. JOhn's alone."

<Public> Beachcomber nods to Inferno, "That's true. Heard it on the radio."

<Public> Doubleback hasn't heard anything on local news about a plane over Dallas.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Cyc, we did, but that's so all the international traffic can be taken in."

<Public> Redshift says, "30 in St John's? I havent' heard a sinlge plane overhead here in Gander."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "It was just a blurb on the radio, I have no idea how well-informed it was"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "They know a plane was hijacked, that's all"

<Public> Cyclonus hasn't heard anything about that, Bug. ABC is still calling it unconfirmed as to the aircraft's identity.

<Public> Rob Kennedy is suprised by that Shiftah

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Whoever did this planned this well..."

<Public> Redshift says, "Yeah. We've got nothing in Gander."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Oh sure. :)"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Weird."

<Public> Inferno says, "Muster the F15's and 16's from Tinker AFB here in Midwest City, and take 'em out."

<Public> Bug says, "This is an unconfirmed report."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Air force already dropped a plane near DC"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "BTW, Inf, toss in a few prayers for all the EMS."

<Public> Inferno says, "that might be one of the United planes still not accounted for."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "If it ain't military, it ain't allowed to fly"

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "well, Germany and Japan will be on alert for awhile. Better set anyone in the military over there playing here on_vac"

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil says, "Arab Group DFLP Claims Responability."

<Public> Bug says, "No confirmation anywhere on camp david. And that was UA 93 down at pennsylvania, I think."

<Admin> Poopdeck says, "DS is actually here. :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "It's convenient that all this happens on the anniversary of the Camp David Accords..."

<Public> Poopdeck kinda doubts Camp Dabid.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Thank goodness, Bush wasn't at Camp David though"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "No shit"

<Public> DreadTread says, "Camp David was destroyed as well?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Plane hit it I heard"

<Public> Bug says, "People have been saying that, but I've not seen one confirmed report."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "I heard nothing of Camp David on CNN"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Bush is prolly already in NORAD"

<Public> Inferno says, "No... Initial reports are unconfirmed, but apparently a plane hit just outside of Camp David."

<Public> Airlift says, "Bush was in Sarasota Florida, reading to children."

<Public> Airlift says, "He was rushed to Airforce 1, and has been in the air surrounded by fighters."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Yes, but he reportedly went back to Washington."

<Public> Inferno says, "Is everyone as pissed off as I am right now? I want some God damned heads to roll."

<O-Decepticon> That guy Skirmish says, "anybody heard the news?"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Nope."

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Everyone's heard."

<Public> Bug says, "Not at washington yet. They're not gonna let him back just yet."

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Um. /Yes/. That's what everyone is talking about on the public channel."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Nothing I can do."

<O-Decepticon> Predakitty Razorclaw says, "Its the only thing the public channel is full of"

<O-Decepticon> Quad-Sexy MD Airlift says, "Anything going on at Egglin Jason?"

<Public> Bug says, "United airlines plane down in colorado?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Inferno, the entire country is going to be calling for blood ."

<O-Decepticon> That guy Skirmish never has public on.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "They will be, but they shouldn't"

<O-Decepticon> That guy Skirmish says, "Yeah, security is going through the roof even here in bfe"

<O-Decepticon> Predakitty Razorclaw says, "Turn it on then... Its where everyone is talking"

<Public> Bug says, "All airports in *australia* have been shut down..."

Tue Sep 11 12:39:08 2001

<Public> Redshift says, "Meh?"

<Public> DreadTread says, "so planes in mid flight were ordered to land?"

<O-Decepticon> Leader of Cycy-Cyc and the Armada Bunch, Cyclonus has had ABC on for nearly 2 hours... last time I watched anything like this was the day I was physically sick and taken to my grandmother's... just in time to see the footage of Challenger's explosion. But this... words just can't describe this...

<O-Decepticon> That guy Skirmish says, "heh, as usual, I'm a day late and 20 dollars short."

<Public> Bran Murdoch afks.

<Public> Poopdeck gave 'em a short "Hope the ones responsible rot in hell a year for every life lost" but that's it, all I can do is hope the death toll is light under the circumstances and do what America always does, keep right on going on with life.

<Public> Inferno says, "Why not? This is a flat out act of war, and if we're able to find the source of this atrocity, that person or organization should DIE. Plain and friggin' simple."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "The plane apparently crashed 'deep' into the Pentagon. All the way to the middle 'ring'."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yes, DT. :)"

<Public> Cyclonus says, "Inner ring"

<Public> J-Turn says, "DT: Yes. They were ordered to make landing at their nearest airport."

<Public> DreadTread can't believe that they got so close

<Public> DreadTread nods

<Public> Cyclonus says, "They confirmed that it penetrated into the inner ring."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "You can only declare war on states, Inferno. Not terrorist organizations. We can hunt them down, of course."

<Public> Bug says, "And an interesting take from a friend... "In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb", "The third big war will begin when the big city is burning" - Nostradamus 1654"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Again, north/south traffic often goes over the Pentagon."

<Public> DreadTread says, "oh, ok"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Nostradamus was never that clear."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Whoa."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Now that's freaky, Bug."

<Public> Bug still can't beliee that airports in *australia* have been shut down...

<Public> Poopdeck says the only thing he can, with due respect to Bug. Bullshit. :)

<Public> Headstrong got chills.

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil says, "The City of London is being evacuated. (thats just a 1 mile square in the center)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Hunt them down, and eliminate them. Finally drop a pair, and give total support to our only bastion in the middle east, Israel. Screw everyone else."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Hell man, it may have been that attitude that brought it on."

<Public> Airlift says, "Australia I think, stands close to America."

<Public> Bug says, "Kennedy space centre's been shut..."

<Public> DreadTread says, "well, there's been reports over the past few months of losing plans in Iraqi airspace, yes?"

<Public> Bug says, "Eh, if you want to get in to australia, get on a freaking falling apart boat and come from indonesia."

<Public> Redshift says, "Heh ;)"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "We lost one UAV, DT."

<Public> Airlift says, "UAV?"

<Public> Inferno says, "Shit... They're shutting down my daughter's daycare!"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Unmanned Aerial Vehicle."

<Public> Headstrong says, "Damn, death toll expected to go into the 1000s"

<Public> Bug says, "God, if it wasn't for newsagents, Australia would have been invaded by refugees a *long* time ago."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Go get your daughter Inferno."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I'm not sure whether to laugh or not at that, Inf. But, I'd go pick up your daughter and spend the day with her."

<Public> Bug says, "20,000 from the towers is the current estimate, HS."

<Public> Airlift says, "nonono"

<Public> Airlift says, "20,000 is how many were inside when it got hit, they evacuated THOUSANDS out of the building though. THey had 45 minutes before it fell."

<Public> DreadTread nods at DS

<Public> DreadTread says, "what has the word been over there, DS?"

<Public> Bug says, "possible 3 planes towards West Coast... waiting for info"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Those planes ain't going to hit anything"

<Public> Cyclonus has heard at least one crash in Seattle

<Public> Cyclonus says, "Maybe two."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Dang it... Damn military needs to be covering the entire damn country in planes"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Lifter, that's the nicest thing I've heard all day barring my wife saying she loved me. :)"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "No word at all from my higher ups. Last to know, first to go. First to fight for right and freedom. Ooh-rah."

<Public> Bug has heard one in colorado.

<Public> Drag Strip says, "We don't have the planes to DO that, Raz."

<Public> DreadTread nods. I thought you might have been briefed on the situation this morning

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Then the borders at least."

<Public> Cyclonus says, "Not anymore, at least."

<Public> DepthCharge has to run. "Hugs all round! You all take care."

<Public> Beachcomber waves.

<Public> Bug says, "Night dc."

<Public> DreadTread snugs and waves!

<Public> Poopdeck says, "You too, DC. :)"

<Public> Redshift says, "Seeya Deppy!"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Get those Harriers, Hornets, and whatever else you Marines have off the ground"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Best bet is that the major landmarks have some sort of air cover."

<Public> DreadTread nods.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "national Guard is being called in for NY"

<Public> DreadTread says, "to keep order and to clean up, probably"

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil says, "Nato is Evacuating it's base in brussles."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw wonders how long before martial law is declared

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Old news, Recoil"

<Public> DreadTread says, "both attacks occurred around the same time, right?"

<Public> Bug says, "Someone's just pointed out that the Spiderman movie is gonna look weird. And I already said that, Recoil."

<Public> Master Pilot, Recoil is always 30 mins out of date.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Yeah... This was a very well planned attack"

<Admin> Aquariffic Orca says, "Holy #$%#$%."

Tue Sep 11 12:49:08 2001

<Admin> Aquariffic Orca says, "I thought I was just having a bad dream when I woke up this morning."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "The only target they aimed for and missed was Bush"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "What Spider Man movie?"

<Public> DreadTread says, "it seems logical that they would have struck other places as well, if they were going to do it in this same wave. It would be foolish to attempt an attack on anything else NATO or US today."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "The new one... With a giant spider web between the towers"

<Public> Rob Kennedy fears WW3. But I must survive! Live in the ruins!

<Public> Bug says, "The one where he catches a helicopter between the WTC towers... yeah."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Raz, chill. It's over."

<Public> Drag Strip heads off to try to call folks. Take care, all. Will try to come back with whatever news I can give you that's not classified.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "What about the Spider Man flick?"

<Public> DreadTread wonders if there's any report from any embassies in the Middle East

<Public> Poopdeck facepalms, wow, suddenly that movie's dated.

<Public> DreadTread snugs. Thanks, DS!

<Public> Redshift says, "Heya Taco"

<Public> Bug says, "DS! Send it to me, via ICQ?>"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Thanks, DS"

<Public> Drag Strip will. :)

<Public> Orca says, "Taco!!"

<Public> Bug says, "Danke!"

<Public> DreadTread says, "take care of yourself"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Oh yeah.. the WTC..."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Everyone that is not in their home county is trying to get there"

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "Anyone got any news on anyone in NY?"

<Public> Drag Strip heads off humming the theme from Metal Gear Solid 2.

<Public> Bug says, "Anyone we know in NYC?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Essi"

<Public> Poopdeck was gonna ask that.

<Public> DreadTread says, "Essi?"

<Public> Orca says, "I don't know anyone in NYC, but I'm going to a wedding with my gf at the end of the month. One of the bridemaids works in one of the towers."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Well, probably not Manhattan."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Short Circuit from BWTF"

<Public> DreadTread nods. I pray she's ok Orca

<Public> DreadTread nods

<Public> Poopdeck nods.

Jesse> <OOC> Cee De La Rosa has been unnerved all morning.

<Public> Headstrong says, "I'm in NYC."

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<Public> Victory Leo says, "Stupid DSL"

<Public> Cyclonus says, "Look at the former Yugoslavia. Still fighting the same war that Christianity and Islam began fighting back 700 years ago. Who's have thought the Crusades were still being fought now?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "From MOO: the DFLP has denounced it"sempai says, "a caller to an Abu Dabhi TV show said they did"sempai says, "but he was wrong""

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Stupid Dial-Up ISP."

<Public> Headstrong says, "Down with all organized religion!"

<Public> Headstrong says, "Sorry. :)"

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana is playing The LIttle Mermaid II now. I need the break :>

<Public> DreadTread is just waiting for the Presidential address

Jesse> <OOC> John is watching my registry crash.

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana says, "eep?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Have they said when that will be?"

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "DFLP Claimed, then retracted."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "The world needs more good sex, that's all I'm gonna say on fixing what's wrong with this planet. :)"

<Public> Orca says, "Shreveport, I think"

Jesse> <OOC> John thinks my video card just flipped out

<Public> DreadTread says, "not yet...I'm betting in the next half hour tho"

<Public> Orca says, "Pentagon fire is going out of control quickly"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Deaths confirmed inside the pentagon."

<Public> Beachcomber nods and hopes it's before his class.

<Public> DreadTread smirks. At least this wasn't during SuperBowl

<Public> Rob Kennedy plots his plan of action if he lives through the death of Civilization, "Get some guns, go to the old Militarty base and get a Jeep, then hope ta gawd theres still electricity so he can get ahold of some of you guys, find people around St. Johns and make a convoy :)

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Don't laugh... They may try for it"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "I just hope someone can rein in John McCain before he convinces everyone to go to war with the entire rest of the world..."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "[["

<Public> DreadTread says, "don't get too worried, Rob. Really...will it do you any good to stress about it? If this really is the precusor to the big one, just enjoy the time you have."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Did you guys see him talking on CNN?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw is glad McCain isn't president... Shit... The world would be over by now

<Public> Poopdeck says, "God, I've been in Canada a long time... Who's John McCain?"

<Public> Sheng finally gets home... is everybody okay?

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Who's stressing? it'd be cool to live like that, for a while anyways"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor is still reeling from the fact that New York doesn't have a world trade center anymore.

<Public> Moonracer says, "Vet who ran for president."

<Public> DreadTread nods

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Everyone that's reported in is. :)"

<Public> Vortex says, "I'm going to go get some sleep. Night everyone."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "He's like a crazy old shack-dweller screaming "Get offa my lawn!" at everyone..."

<Public> Redshift says, "Seeya Tex!"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "No offense, but I wish we had closed our borders before."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Wouldn't have helped"

<Public> Moonracer says, "I'm seeing the pictures now"

<Public> DreadTread says, "well...having seen Road Warriors Rob, I would think it would be a fashion Armeggedon of biblical proportions :)"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Moonie, its bad"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "You just take it for granted that buildings like that are always gonna BE there. The loss of life is tragic of course, but the WORLD TRADE CENTER'S GONE. That's shocking to me for some reason. :^)"

<Public> Moonracer says, "I can tell."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I'm glad we didn't, I wanted out before we elected Dan Quayle to office."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "I want to know how someone can fly a plane into class B1 airspace without anyone noticing."

<Public> Sheng nods...

<Public> Rob Kennedy would have the most Fashionable armor

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Thats the question of the hour, Madcap."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Simple... divert when you get to the closest point and open up the engines"

<Public> Vortex says, "Try class B2 airspace over the Pentagon"

<Public> Orca says, "It was coming into LaGuardia, and it suddenly banked. There was only a couple of minutes, and that wasn't enough to keep it from crashing into the tower."

<Public> DreadTread says, "air travel is going to be restricted for a long time to come."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "And when you get down to it, how do you keep a plane full of hostages from crashing into ANYTHING. You're either gonna blow 'em up or wait for 'em to crash."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The Pentagon though would be a different matter... wouldn't anything in Pentagon airspace be basically targetted and shot down first?"

<Public> Sheng says, "First thing that I thought of when this happened is, oh my god, can they force my brother into the military if it comes to war... He's only 16... And I don't think ANY planes will be taking off for a LONG time..."

<Public> DreadTread had thought so

<Public> Moonracer says, "I am NOT flying for a very long time."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I don't think so, DT, more like airport security is going to be really tight for a while."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Sheng... The military isn't going to draft..."

<Public> DreadTread says, "not everywhere...not it some US territories"

<Public> Sheng says, "I know... I'm allowed to worry..."

<Public> DreadTread says, "if worse comes to worse Sheng, they'd take formers like myself before the draft."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I know you are, but it won't happen... I'll go first."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw is 24... And healthy.

<Public> Moonracer is 28, and considered healthy.

<Public> Sheng says, "True... God, driving home through the rain with that on my radio was... interestoing..."

<Public> Redshift says, "If Canada ends up going along, I'll ve picked up because of my 2 weeks in the military."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "He'll be fine, Sheng. I'm doubting war very much."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And I don't think the military is going to have problems getting people right now..."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "I've been out of the loop for a couple hours. Any clue who did it yet?"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "I don't care if I see a Saudi tank rolling down Stadium Way outside my house...I'm not fighting anyone."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Bin Ladin is the favorite name to throw around."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "But I don't think it's going to come to that anyway"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Pak, you'd be safe saying that for a couple days, at least and I'd still be able to say No clue. ;)"

<Public> DreadTread nods at Raz. They wouldn't initiate the draft unless we were in a full scale conflict, and only after they'd used the all the Reserves and Guard Units, and then formers.

<Public> Sheng says, "No one's named names yet..."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "No officially."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Everyone on CNN keeps saying that they think it's Ben Ladin. Of course, they don't know shit. :)"

<Public> Sheng nods. Not officially

Tue Sep 11 13:29:04 2001

<Public> Sheng damns at the thunder... Have to go... I'll sign on again later

<Public> Redshift goes off to work. Bye all, stay cool.

<Public> DreadTread snugs and waves!

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "If it was Ben Ladin, he'd be walking around Jerusalem with an "I bombed the World Trade Center" t-shirt on. He's too egotistical not to brag. It wasn't him."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Bush is on CNN again."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Later, Sheng, and don't worry. :)"

<Public> J-Turn says, "Bush is speaking now.."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Not on my tv...."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Cnn is having Dificulty"

<Public> Orca says, "So is Fox."

<Public> J-Turn says, "FOX is too."

<Public> DreadTread sighs. I wish I could call my husband for news...he's at the state capitol in Oregon.

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "It was odd going into my college. Even as out of touch as NM is with NY, everyone was either looking down, glancing up every now and then, or they had a cell phone pressed to their ear. Usually everything's all bustling but nothing quite this massive has ever happened to the US personally. Least not in our lifetime. :^)"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "CBS has it finally"

<Public> Orca says, "Everyone's locking down all over the country. Perhaps that was intended."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "CBS has it on"

Dinobot(#455)@BWTMet pages: So how hectic are things over there? I know you're on the east coast.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Bush "Make no mistake The United States with hunt down and Punish all those who are responsible for thies cowardly acts.""

<Public> DreadTread says, "when I was in Basic during the Gulf War it was a weird atmosphere...sort of a flat emotional state as some of us knew we were going...some people in my class went."

> From BWTMet <

You paged Dinobot with "They evacuated Pittsburgh so I'm at home".

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<Public> Headstrong says, "How many times is he going to look down at what's written for him?"

Dinobot(#455)@BWTMet pages: They evacuated the city??

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "hella lot"

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "Crazy shit."

<O-Decepticon> Predakitty Razorclaw says, "Go to the public channel, Hook"

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "No. It's spammy.:)"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "There you go."

<O-Decepticon> Predakitty Razorclaw says, "Like you are doing anything else anyways... No one is in the mood to RP"

<O-Decepticon> Predakitty Razorclaw says, "This MUSH is now just an over glorified talker"

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You paged Dinobot with "All the government buildings and skyscrapers, and a bunch of other businesses including mine shut down.".

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<O-Decepticon> Its worse than that its Physics! DreadTread says, "well, its a tad important :)"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "That is very reassuring, but it can mean a lot of options, Rob."

<Public> Rob Kennedy nods, "It could turn out either way."

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "They're now evacuating downtown Ottawa over here."

<Public> J-Turn says, "The 4th airline that went down 80 miles SE of Pittsburgh was an attempt at Bush's vacation locations..possibly Camp David."

Dinobot(#455)@BWTMet pages: So is there anything on the news over there about the plane that crashed near pittsburgh? CNN has barely anything about it, other than it went down.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Hook says they're evacuating downtown Ottawa."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Looking down means that he's got something written down, so he doens't say what some people have been saying on this channel. The We'r going to find who did this and bomb them into the stone age? That would have been a BAD thing to say, so if he looks down to make sure he's not going to say something that would lay the blame on something or someone that didn't do it and wouldn't take it nicely, COPE WITH IT."

<Public> J-Turn says, "There was a statement on local news that they are evac'ing all of the 'tallest' buildings in major cities across the US."

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You paged Dinobot with "I'm just watching CNN".

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<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "They are evacuating everything, basically."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Tall buildings, major landmarks.."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Basically any targets."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "Even in Calgary"

<Public> Poopdeck has no problem with it, Moonie. ;)

<Public> Moonracer says, "I'm more concerned about Atlanta. And UAB- CDC and some damned dangerous virii."

<Public> Poopdeck admires CBC news reporting. Ah yeah, there's that call for blood now, so call the Canadian Blood Service, folks and give. :)

Tue Sep 11 13:39:05 2001

<Public> DreadTread says, "we will show the world we will pass this test....""

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "All tall buildings in St. Johns.... Why?"

<Public> Moonracer needs to get down there to donate.

<Public> DreadTread nods. I'm thinking that too, Moonie

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "People are afraid that another plane will crash and kill mroe people"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Witness on tv..."

<Public> DreadTread says, "that is unlikely, Octane. With everyone up in arms this way, only a fool would attempt to strike now"

<Public> DreadTread says, "and this was not the act of fools."

<Public> Moonracer isn't sure how she's going to do it. Need to get so much done today.

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Hm. This does make it a little more difficult for me to portray a terrorist/arsonist ..."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Theres a rumor floating around town we have a plane with a bomb on it, but thats prolly bull"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "I never said it was happen, DT."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Just that people are scared it will happen."

<Public> Moonracer says, "And there goes John McCain."

<Public> DreadTread nods

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Someone needs to muzzle that guy..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "MOO says the golden gate bridge is being closed"

<Public> Rob Kennedy idily states, "I need another Kilt."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet waves

<Public> Moonracer needs something strong to drink.

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Now this guy is talking about ordering strikes against any country that "harbors these people." Which people? It's an idle threat, and it makes our country look like jackasses. They don't know who did it, and they probably never will. No strikes will be ordered, and we're just shaking our fist at the world."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap sighs.

<Public> J-Turn says, "Well, I'm gonna go offline. My head is hurting from reading so much text with just one eye. (I've got an abrasion on the other eye, so it's patched closed.) Good luck gang. I'll catch up with you later."

<Public> DreadTread says, "no, something will happen...Bush would not be able to mollify an entire nation baying for a retalliation of some sort."

<Public> DreadTread snugs and waves!

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Someone will be the scapegoat."

<Public> DreadTread nods. The question is whom...and when.

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "That's exactly what I'm afraid of."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Either the US will find a target, or the Military will pick their least liked out of the group, and the CIA will make the evidence."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Madcap, Beit (whatever) said that an attack on the US would occur soon... He said that a few weeks ago"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Someone will pay for this, whether they did it or not."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "With an act so audacious, someone WILL take responsibility"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Retaliation, no, justice, yes."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "It's the end of the world."

Tue Sep 11 13:49:05 2001

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "I'm afraid that US is gonna hit the wrong place and it'll be discovered then more shit will blow up"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Of course, it is a sign that maybe we should look at our foreign policy when millions of Palistinians celebrate in the streets because someone bombs us..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Plus, it happened on the anniversay of the peace accord..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Don't tell me the middle east isn't involved somehow"

<Public> DreadTread says, "which is no coincidence, Raz"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "It's an unpopular opinion, but maybe if we left other countries alone in the first place..."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Sorry, but I just don't see it that way. This whole "nation baying for blood" idea. Bull pucky."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Madcap, I agree we should leave other countries alone... But they ask for our help and then bitch about it"

<Public> DreadTread says, "look at how the country reacted to the capture, trial, and execution of McVeigh. Yes, the entire country will expect some sort of retaliation somewhere."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "This is the United States' 'Big Brother' foreign policy coming back to bite us in the ass...simple as that."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "the little brother always end up picking on the big brother in the end."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yeah, but there wasn't a body to point to. This time, there's the hijackers on the plane to point fingers at."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Madcap, I'm all for closing our borders... But now I'm for opening them up long enough to let the military out and then closing our doors"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "I never advocated closing our borders."

<Public> DreadTread says, "and with Bush having said, 'we will show the world we will pass this test', he has committed us to some form of reaction."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I do"

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Nukes."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Sure, criminal investigation."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "No nukes"

<Public> DreadTread says, "something stronger I think."

<Public> Moonracer says, "We will HAVE to do something. If we did absolutely nothing but pick ourselves up, and such, someone would try it again."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I don't. :)"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "No nukes, although something exploded."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "I advocate applying equal and equitable foreign policy to all nations. We embrace Europe, look down our nose at Africa, and antagonize the Middle East, and then we wonder why people want to bomb us. It's ridiculous."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "The United States provides most of the food for the world... We shut our borders and let the fuckers starve"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Okay, how about this, criminal investigation that finds someone who 'did it' and tries and executes them?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And we also provide money to keep other countries economies afloat... Screw that."

<Public> Beachcomber blinks at Raz, "You have any stats to back up that claim?"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "What if it's not another country?"

<Public> Moonracer goes to call someone Back later.

<Public> DreadTread says, "maybe not nukes, but something in the form of a military operation is bound to happen I think. Look at how we reacted to the take over of Kuwait?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Which claim?"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "The food one. And what exactly is your plan, let /all/ other countries starve? Even those that we can be pretty sure had /nothing/ to do this? Canada? Brittain?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "The economy part... Look at our trade defiect... Need I say more"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Raz, do you have any idea how much food and goods the United States *imports*?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "We import goods... And speciality foods (chocolate, coffee, etc)."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I live in Iowa... I know where food goes."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "We do *not* provide most of the food for the world. That's so wrong, I don't even know where to begin."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "We knew about Kuwait before it happened. The State Department was calling Americans telling them to come home before Saddam even hit the border."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Iowa government estimates over half our food leaves the country..."

<Public> DreadTread nods. But when it was taken, we went to war.

<Public> Beachcomber nods to Madcap and says to Raz, "Trust me, the US doesn't produce most of the food in the world. Not even close."

Jesse> <OOC> Cee De La Rosa goes to eat lunch before I feel more nauseous.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "No we didn't we applied sanctions."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I'm just saying what Iowa government claims"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Even if half of the food produced in the US is exported, that's not enough to feed a quarter of the world's population."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Then, six months later, we went to war because Saddam wasn't giving us what we wanted, oil."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Half 'our' food? Our meaning Iowa? Or the entire country?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Iowa's"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Ah, well then. Half of Iowa isn't going to feed anything."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "My mind hurts"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And considering we have over one quarter of the grade A soil in our state... that's alot of food"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "One quarter of what?"

<Public> DreadTread nods. I don't know...I am kind of pensive about gas prices.

<Public> Beachcomber says, "A quarter of the entire planet's grade A soil? The US? North America?"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I'm sorry if I'm being Antagonistic, DT. We just see the world differently. :)"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "GRADE A soil... Its the most fertile soil to grow on"

<Public> DreadTread nods and grins :)

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "DC has just gone to a state of emergency..."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Officially"

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Yes, Raz, but a quarter /of what/? A quarter of the entire planet's grade a soil?"

<Public> DreadTread says, "naw, you're just stating your point of view Poopdeck...no worries :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Raaar."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Whatever WW3 is fought with, WW4 will be fought with sticks and stones"

<Public> DreadTread nods. So said Oppenheimer

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Department of Ag says one quarter of US grade A soil is here."

<Public> Beachcomber nods to Rob, "Einstein said that, right?"

<Public> DreadTread nods. You're right...

<Public> Beachcomber says, "Well, that might not mean much, Raz."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Nope... Oppenheimer"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "That was back when people thought we'd actually use nukes. World War Three does not equate nukes."

Tue Sep 11 13:59:04 2001

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "At any rate, there is no way the United States can close its borders. There is too much trade at stake."

<Public> DreadTread says, "Oppenheimer said, Now I am become Shiva, destroyer of worlds"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Oo.. Ameircan Express building might fall."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "If everyone else had to met the same 'clean air' and 'minium wage' policies as we did, American stuff would be for cheaper."

<Public> Beachcomber says, "No, it was Einstein. "I don't know what kind of weapons will be used in the third world war, assuming there will be a third world war. But I can tell you what the fourth world war will be fought with -- stone clubs.""

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Does that mean I don't have to pay my credit card bill?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane is wondering that.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "But when you can get Nike's made for a buck by children in China..."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yeah, now if I could just cut out the middle man."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "It's gonna be a long night to be a Sprint PCS customer service advocate. EVERYONE in New York and Washington are trying to call and I know we don't have the support down there to handle the calls out, or all the calls coming in from other places. People're gonna be fuming that they couldn't use their cell phone when all this was going down, that they couldn't contact X person to find out if they were OK/Tell them they were OK. The news is even reporting that Cell phones just aren't working. Tonight's gonna be tough. :^)"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "That's why we have so few factories anymore... Its cheaper to have it made overseas"

<Public> Sheng comes back...

<Public> Poopdeck pats Pak. Hang in there.

<Public> Inferno says, "That, and states like California worried more about 3 hoot owls and bike trails than making their state strong, productive, and a benefit to the power of the nation."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw sees that he's isn't the only conservative around

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I like hoot owls and bike trails. :>"

<Public> Sheng blinks?

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw likes them too, but eco-nuts are... well... nuts

<Public> Rob Kennedy wants to talk to his Ex Gf :(

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw needs to go home... I'll try and get back on when I get there

<Public> Beachcomber says, "See ya, Raz."

<Public> Sheng nods and hugs

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap can't even begin to discuss what's wrong with that statement, Inferno.

<Public> Inferno says, "Likewise with me. You think those brownouts in Cali are from some freakish thing? It's from California losing its sense of production that was so strong after WWII."

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Me. Tue Sep 11 Ruin

For obvious reasons, I'm going to be scarce for a while. I'll be around, but I'm going to be pretty busy, and I'm not going to have as many opportunities to log in.

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Likewise Tue Sep 11 Drag Strip

"First to fight for right and freedom" and all that. Very possible, if we do send troops, that I'll be one of them. We'll see. I'm setting myself and Valor on-vacation, please don't nuke us. Good luck and God bless.

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<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "don't give me that crap, Madcap. I don't care if their white, green, purple, brown, or rainbow-colored. They act in a way that is totally unjustifiable, whatever their opinions are, and they need to be shown that there are consequences. Once we find the ones who did it. Not the area as a whole. The ones who perpetrated this act."

<Public> DreadTread nods. Even the planes schedules were timed...even allowing for time of flight and time zones

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Moon, that's a given, yes. :)"

<Public> Moonracer says, "We're not ready to just randomly drop bombs, Madcap. We're ready to Find whoever did this, and give them justice."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "Whoever's behind this, I hafta grudgingly admit that they did a good job."

<Public> Inferno says, "Swift, extreme justice."

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Justice. We can't provide justice in our *own* country, let alone the world stage."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "Yeah but we like to pretend we can. :^)"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap nods at Pak.

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "now that I disagree with, Inferno. We have to know who did it. Swift, extreme justice will hit the wrong people. It splashes too far."

<Public> Inferno says, "Then call it revenge. Hell, you can call it tuna fish as far as I'm concerned."

<Public> Orca says, "hey, easy on the tuna! ;)"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "A dish best served with mayonase.. :^)"

<Public> Sheng says, "Cursing doesn't help... neither does getting angry at people that we are friends with. 'We' as individuals can't do anything... If we go to war, the american civilains like me won't get to vote on that fact, we don't get a choice in war, not raeally. Is this thing about to get bigger? Will things get worse from here? Yeah, it's gonna get worse... Revenge won't solve anything and just gets more people dead... and that just makes more people want revenge... And endless, bitter and damning cycle."

<Public> DreadTread says, "it was an attack months in the planning and extremely well executed, which is what concerns me. Had it been some random cluster of bombings, it would be far less disconcerting."

<Public> Bran Murdoch wants to make sure that the US is safe, and I do not think that backing out of the region will do that.

<Public> DreadTread snugs Sheng. You're a very good person who is worried...its ok :)

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Having troops in the Middle East doesn't stop people from flying planes into the World Trade Center."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "Well the Terrorist's did what they were supposed to do. I think it's safe to assume we're terrorized."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "pulling them out won't stop it either."

<Public> Inferno says, "It won't. As long as Israel is a nation, we as Americans will be blamed for a Middle Eastern presence that Palestine, Syria, and God knows who else wants removed."

<Public> Sheng sighs... I have family in New York... And we haven't gotten a call from them, and we can't call them becasue they would normally be at work, and probably wouldn't be home now anyway...

<Public> Poopdeck says, "DT, I'm sorry, but I'd hazard a guess that many such things are planned just as well. They wouldn't work otherwise."

<Public> DreadTread says, "planned yes, but on such a grand scale?"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor pats Sheng.

<Public> Moonracer is angry, and sad, and horrified at the deaths and destruction.

<Public> Sheng just wants to know if her family and friends are alright...

<Public> DreadTread says, "I mean, there was no communication between them. It was planned to a T, and indicates that we're being watched more closely than we think."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I was actually thinking about that, DT, I think it might take about 20 people who didn't want to live anymore to pull this off."

<Public> Moonracer HUGS Sheng..

<Public> DreadTread says, "more than that...there was some serious financial backing here"

<Public> DreadTread says, "although probably few actually knew of the exact details"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Guh? To hijack a few planes?"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "Irony being that when my alarm went off, St. Elmo's Fire was playing. Hit the snooze and the song was still going through my head when my alarm went back off to announce the world trade center had collapsed."

<Public> DreadTread says, "to come here, live here, study the schedules, learn how to fly the planes and aim them, to know when and where to strike."

<Public> Sheng says, "And my mom still won't answer her phone..."

<Public> Moonracer recognizes some of the places, from when she got lost in new york.... "Need to get down to donate blood soon. Next couple of days. They're bringing some of the people to Birmingham- we have some of the best doctors in the country here."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor hasta go. Hang in there, everyone.

<Public> DreadTread waves!

<Public> Airlift says, "Has anyone noticed the date?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "I couldn't get through to my parents either, Sheng. I think the phone system is probably overloaded at the moment."

<Public> Sheng doesn't know what to do... The people on the streets are crazy right now...

<Public> Airlift says, "9/11....911....emergency."

<Public> DreadTread nods

<Public> DreadTread says, "stay inside, Sheng."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Service in NYC is screwed."

<Public> Airlift says, "The cell phone towers in NYC were on top of the towers."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane called home to Central NY a few hours ago, and it was a minute before I was connected.

<Public> Moonracer hugs SHeng. "Stay inside, don't panic. Your mother may be trying to call YOU."

<Public> Sheng says, "I am... but I don't know where my mom is, and she's usually driving home at this time"

<Public> Airlift says, "There are no more domestic flights unaccounted for, all are down now."

<Public> Inferno says, "I want death. I want the heads of those responsible. I don't want some drawn out horrid OJ trial-esque Nuremburgh Part II. I want revenge, for the lives lost, for the men and women scarred for life not only from wounds, but from the images they will have to live with for the rest of their lives. I want the blood of the men that dared infringe on the greatness of the nation that lives and breathes under those Stars and Stripes. And I want it as soon as possible, if not sooner. Call me evil, wrong, whatever. But I don't think I'm alone..."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Where are you, Sheng?"

<Public> DreadTread wonders...the planes that crashed were from two airlines. They must have studied which airlines would be the easiest to penetrate.

<Public> Moonracer says, "Traffic is probably horrid too, Sheng."

<Public> Sheng says, "South Florida... but it's raining bad and there have been aLOT of accidents becaose of people on the phone or paying more attention to the radio while driving..."

<Public> DreadTread nods. And people drive poorly when they panic

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "looks at Fern. "From any nation, this attack would be an act of war. Should we consider it as such?""

<Public> Airlift says, "They also only hijacked planes going from east to west coast, the planes with teh MOST possible fuel"

<Public> DreadTread nods

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet heard that all mobile phones in NY had gone down because of it anyhow

<Public> Moonracer hugs Sheng. "Does she have a cell phone?"

<Public> DreadTread says, "two 757s and two 767s...big ones to make bigger impacts"

<Public> DreadTread says, "and requiring some knowledge to fly them"

<Public> Sheng says, "That's the number I called... I called her at the time that she should have been at lunch break at schoool, then when her schoool should have been over, and just now"

<Public> Airlift says, "All cell phones are down in NY"

Tue Sep 11 14:39:34 2001

<Public> Sheng sorries, but is a bit paniced...

<Public> Airlift says, "All cell phones routed through towers on top of the world trade towers."

<Public> Airlift says, "There were no schools in danger zones, but they started evacuating them Sheng."

<Public> Sheng says, "But my dad reached my aunt?"

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "Rally is going to be very busy..."

<Public> Moonracer says, "You have contact?"

<Admin> Moonracer says, "Oh?"

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "does he have any FCs here?"

<Admin> Airwolf says, "Magnus."

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "Ft. Huachuca is kind of an information place"

<Admin> Moonracer says, "Ahhh."

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "which is why its in the middle of nowhere"

<Public> Sheng says, "We did... I'm not sure if it's, like you said, the twoers being down... or if she has her phone off... or what..."

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "does he still have Magnus?"

<Admin> Moonracer says, "Last I checked."

<Admin> Judge DreadTread sets him on-vac then

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<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet wouldn't worry too much. I think that the damage was contained in the areas directly near the tower

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<Public> Inferno says, "You're damn right we should, Bran. A hostile assault on U.S. territory with intent to kill. We can't look at it any other way."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Sheng, you're Mom's in NY?"

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "he's in systems admin I believe...he's going to be very occupied with maintaining communication between bases, I would think."

<Public> Sheng says, "No, in Florida, but there have been ALOT of accidents and I almost got hit on the way home, so I'm scared"

<Public> Airlift says, "'We stand shoulder to shoulder with our American friends..and we, like them, will not rest until this evil is driven from the world.' -Tony Blair"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Well, you're safe now, she'll be along. She might be with the students?"

<Public> DreadTread says, "stay inside...we'll be here for you as long as we have phone lines."

<Public> Inferno says, "Atta boy, Tony Blair."

<Public> Moonracer multimus to find out about people.

<Public> Sheng nods... My head knows she's probably fine, but I'm still scared

<Public> Bran Murdoch claps for Tony Blair.

<Public> Poopdeck knows how that is. :)

<Public> Moonracer called a friend she knows is okay, just because.

<Public> Airlift is listening to the people who work with him, calling for blood.

<Public> Airlift says, "America is calling for blood."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster is calling for a pizza.

<Public> Moonracer says, "And giving blood."

<Public> Airlift says, "Just like Pearl Harbor...they're going to learn to regret what they did to America."

<Public> Moonracer says, "The Red Cross centers are overflowing with people."

<Public> DreadTread is a little afraid for her husband elsewhere. I know he's safe now, but very stressed and busy, and it bothers me that I probably will not hear from him in some time, so I am on my own here.

<Public> Sheng nods... And that is scary too. We call fro blood... they call for blood in retrun... and all we have is a blooody war and alot of military and civilains dead.

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Are you Southern, by chance, Airlift?"

<Public> Airlift says, "They have people lined up out hte doors in the blood centers in my town."

<Public> Inferno says, "rrrfffcffffffffffffffcc3cc oiio That's what my Abigail has to say about it."

<Public> Airlift says, "Yep Mixmaster, sure am."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "That figures."

<Public> Inferno says, "That figures? What the hell kind of thing is that to say?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Figures? How? I think there are a LOT of fucking places that are calling for blood that are in the north."

<Public> Bran Murdoch hands Airlift an RC Cola and a Moonpie, and has some hisself. "Y'all got a point about us Southerners?"

<Public> DreadTread nods. I'm gonna go tomorrow or later in the week

<Public> Poopdeck says, "You tell him, hunny. :) Tell your daddy he's a big firetruck. :>"

<Public> Inferno says, "hahaha"

<Public> Airlift says, "I'm proud I'm a southerner, and proud I'm an American."

<Public> Sheng is a southener and I'm not calling for blood?

<Public> DreadTread says, "anyway...its time we stuck together as a nation and leave our regional jingoisms out of it."

<Public> Trailbreaker saw the news 30 minutes ago and still can't comprahend what happened in Washington*brrs*

<Public> Moonracer is in the south. DreadTread is in the south.

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods atta DT. "We're one nation, under God, etc. etc."

<Public> Inferno says, "We're ALL Americans first and foremost. South, North... Well, everyone except those weirdos in California... hahaha"

<Public> Airlift watched those towers on live television fall.. "Those are towers i've STOOD on..buildings I've been in.."

<Public> Poopdeck is from Missouri, I'm still southern, just from the northern part. :)

Tue Sep 11 14:49:33 2001

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Fuck off, Fern. :)"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane is just as American as the rest of you, even if he is a hippie

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster doesn't see the point. Find the parties responsible. It may or may not have been a goverment, it may have been a radical group. Who knows? It IS the greatest tragedy since Pearl Harbor in American history, but crikey, the last time that happened, we unleashed the most destructive force known to man on this world. I, for one, am just happy it didn't happen anywhere near me, and I have some other worries beyond wanting to attack Middle Easterners.

<Public> Poopdeck is working on being a Canadian. :>

<Public> Inferno says, "Just like Molson."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Well, it happened near me, but not somewhere where I'm in any direct danger."

<Public> Sheng nods. Guys, please! We have enough trouble, enough emotions running high without fyelling at each other and getting angry at people... We're all friends here. We can't change what happened, and hindsight is 20/20...

<Public> DreadTread says, "but we are all Americans...black white northern southern. And it is up to us to stand together, be it behind soldiers if we go to war, to donate blood, time, or money for the people in NYC..."

<Public> Inferno says, "That lackadasical attitude makes me sick."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Damn good beer, eh? :)"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Mixmaster. Shut up. Right now. People need to vent, and having someone bashing them for venting is NOT helping the situation."

<Public> Trailbreaker says, "I'n not american..but i'm still shocked..one moment i set the tv..the next i see images of the SECOND plane hitting WTC..then i hear about Pentagon..its so unreal somehow..yet its eerily real."

<Public> Inferno says, "Damn good beer."

<Public> Airlift says, "This was a military attack, it was an act of war. If Afghanistan protects those who launched the attack, they have declared War on America just like those religious fanatics."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Lifter.

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "And the Southern thing...well, Southerners have a stronger 'pride' or whatever you wish to call it (And more of a temper, in most regards). Studies in my current Civil War class."

<Public> Moonracer says, "You have a really really prejudiced civil war class, Mixmaster."

<Public> Inferno says, "That's an F'ed up stereotype, considering the ravaging Sherman laid on the South."

<Public> DreadTread says, "it is a good positive thing that we are able to be here online at all..."

<Public> Trailbreaker says, "I figured it was."

<Public> Sheng says, "That's not true. Most of the people wher eI live moved down here from the north... that happens alot in the southern states... does that mean that people become more agressive and full of pride when they move here?"

<Public> Airlift says, "Sherman razed the south to the point of wrapping railroad irons around trees."

<Public> Sheng never understands sterotypes...

<Public> Airlift says, "Most of the people were I live are either military, retired military, or canadians."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Next you're probably going to learn that all southerners are rednecks, and all northerners are stolid unemotional pricks."

<Public> Inferno says, "If I wanted to, I could say that northerners are all stuck up pricks that talk funny. In my experience, they are."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "They come from people who don't know any better making a judgement call on people they've never met, or haven't met yet."

<Public> Moonracer says, "I may be stolid, but I am not an unemotional prick."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster shrugs. Depends. In any case, war shouldn't be the first thing on our list of options. And how on earth do you know it was a 'military' act? You have a hotline to the middle east?

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane doesn't talk funny!

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "In my experience, all people are differently."

<Public> DreadTread says, "whoever did this does not care about the differences between northern and southern...to them, we are all Americans and they hate us equally."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Eh, everyone's got their accent."

<Public> Airlift says, "Mixmaster, shut up."

<Public> Airlift says, "Just shut up. Get the hell off of here."

<Public> Sheng sighs... Guys... Southerners and Northeners are pretty much the same.

<Public> Inferno says, "It became a military act the minute that first plane struck that building."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Sheng. "Southerners and Northerners=no longer a viable distinction.

<Public> Poopdeck is pretty much the same as everyone I've ever met.

<Public> Moonracer says, "Mixmaster, it was a planned stealth attack on innocent people in the middle of a city with over two million people. You want to tell us that that was an itty bitty little thing, of no consiquence? Go tell that to the 10 THOUSAND or so casualties."

<Public> Sheng says, "Can we drop this subject? It doesn't really matter that much. People want blood northa nd south, and this won't change what happened."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "North and South? What the hell?"

<Public> Sheng says, "Don't ask."

<Public> Sheng says, "It'll start up again."

<Public> Inferno says, "Tell that to the IAFF boys up there that have 200 some brothers missing in action right now. You want to get this Okie riled up, that's a sure way to do it."

<Public> Airlift says, "Razorclaw decided to stereotype me as a redneck Razorclaw..nothing serious, just ignorance rearing it's head again :)"

<Public> Sheng says, "And my aunt, uncle and cousins may be some of those people that are dead, OKAY?!"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Tell it to this woman, Mixmaster...

"When Challenger blew up, I had to explain that sometimes bad things happen, to a four year old. When Oklahoma was bombed, I had to explain how bad things happen to good people because there are bad people out there who don't want to be nice, to a 10 year old. I am in the process of making funeral arrangements for that same little girl who was 18 when the plane she was on flew into a building.""

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw is concince Jerkboy from Afghastan is responsible. Afghan says he couldn't have masterminded it and they couldn't have afforded to bank roll it.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "I didn't need that, thank you."

<Public> Airlift shudders, "Oh lord.."

<Public> Moonracer hugs Sheng. "I thought your dad got in contact with your aunt?"

<Public> Sheng says, "So let's drop the god damned 'red neck' 'prick' sterotypes and go off the fact that if we didn't say where we were feom NO ONE WOULD FUCKING KNOW! There isn't a distinction anymore! We move too much!!"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Tell it to the countless other people who have lost mothers or fathers. Brothers or sisters, girlfriends, boyfriends, and so on. Their lives have been radically changed by this 'insignificant act'."

<Public> Sheng says, "And no! we haven't heard from my aunt in New York, only my aunt that lives here in Florida!"

<Public> Moonracer hugs Sheng.

<Public> Bran Murdoch hugs Sheng.

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Don't worry Sheng. I'm sure it will be fine"

<Public> Airlift hugs Sheng

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Okay let's dump the civil war... Its time to come together as a country... not apart"

<Public> Sheng is sorry for yelling but I'm scared and we're all friends and we're arguing over the DUMBEST GOD DAMN THINGS!!!

<Public> Airlift says, "Sheng, did any of your family work in the towers?"

<Public> Poopdeck joins the group hug. Haven't been in one of these since the early 80s.

<Public> Airlift says, "If not, they should be okay.."

<Public> Sheng says, "I don't know!!!"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "And the saddest thing is, that all this violence and death is over the dumbest goddamn things too. Life is shit"

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods. "This isn't a time to fall apart...we've an external threat, whatever the source of it, and we need to be united to deal with it."

<Public> DreadTread says, "if anything, this proves life is precious and short, Leet."

Tue Sep 11 14:59:33 2001

<Public> Airlift says, "It's bad, but the towers were all that was hit in New York.."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet knows that all too well

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw growls at TV... "Palinstinans are cheering for this... Sickos

<Public> Sheng just wants her family to be okay! That's it!!

<Public> Airlift nods to Razorclaw..

<Public> Airlift says, "They're dancing in the streets, and throwing candy."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Not just the towers, Airlift- the timing made sure that there are probably some EMT casualties as well. :("

<Public> DreadTread fears somewhat for the innocent families of Middle eastern heritage living in the US now.

<Public> Airlift says, "There are a lot of EMT casualties from the buildings falling.."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The WTC towers collapsing is not a _small_ thing, Mixmaster... thousands of people are dead. Thousands of lives ended. People are dead in the Pentagon. People, innocent people who went to the Towers to do their jobs, their JOBS for christ sake, are dead!"

<Public> Orca says, "That's part of why I didn't go down to campus today. UIC has a very diverse student population with a lot of middle-Eastern students."

<Public> Airlift says, "I know Tread.."

<Public> Inferno says, "Damn tootin', Bran. To arms, brothers. There's a light in the clocktower."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Dreadtread, I fear that as well... My school has a quite a few percentage wise"

<Public> Sheng nods. The people from the mid east living here... Huh, if we get into arguemnts over north or south, what about people that were born here, but whos parents weren't...

<Public> DreadTread says, "who had not a damn thing to do with it, but may suffer nonetheless."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "America, as a whole, has been attacked. This is a time where we should forget our differences. They see us all as Americans, whether we are from the North, South, or West. Whether we are black, white, yellow, pink, purple, or neon fucking green. Its about time we should do the same."

<Public> Airlift says, "The best thing they could do right now..is stay home..which is sad."

<Public> Sheng says, "Humans are a panicy bunch of jerks I think sometimes"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Sheng, you are right"

<Public> DreadTread says, "yes, we are"

<Public> Airlift says, "OHHH!"

<Public> Airlift says, "I'd date a neon green girl! :)"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw laughs

<Public> DreadTread smirks. Grew up in Chernobyl did she?

<Public> Airlift says, "Or a purple one...ohh..that could be fun :)"

<Public> Orca says, "Signing off for a little bit, need to open the phone line. Back in a little while, all."

<Public> Inferno says, "I would do a purple chick, but only if she was a light purple, and tasted like kool-aid."

<Public> Airlift splashes DT with paint and pounces her, "Gimme some lovin' purple girl!" :)

<Public> Poopdeck married a forest green girl, when she gets her hair dye and make up out for conventions. :>

<Public> DreadTread says, "ugh...purple is not a good color for me :)"

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "A person is smart, people are dumb, Sheng. :) Old axiom that still holds true."

<Public> Sheng says, "We get angry about something and we focus on the easiest target for it... I mean, loook at what just happened here! I have family that may be DEAD now, and I'm still trying to stop the fights that happen... Too bad the leaders couldn't be like that and talk instead of kill inocent people...."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "What sickens me more than the attacks is the palinestian peoples reaction..."

<Public> Moonracer hugs Sheng.

<Public> Sheng heys... Maybe we should all paint ourselves green... then no body would be differant

<Public> Airlift nods to Razorclaw.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Shit, we weren't this cruel to the Nazis"

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "What you expect? They don't want us in there. Why are we throwing money at 'em?"

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Just the Japanese, Raz."

<Public> Trailbreaker has the tv on on another channel right now, heard it was 4 planes..2 in wtc i know..2 in Pentagon

<Public> Sheng nods. Yeah, I head that too.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Mixmaster, we ain't wanted in South Korea either... But they begged us to come help them..."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Um, no."

<Public> Trailbreaker says, "Mischan..nevermind"

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "2 at the Pentagon."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "There wasn't two planes."

<Public> Inferno says, "@ in WTC, 1 in the Pentagon, One in western Pennsylvania, and possibly one outside of Camp David."

<Public> Sheng says, "One in pentegon, the other crashed before hitting it, I think"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "We didn't cheer on the killing of innocents Mixmaster"

<Public> Trailbreaker facepalms and hates to mischan

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "We were sickened by the damaged caused by the nukes... so don't go there"

<Public> Airlift says, "Camp David wasn't targetted..that's been cleared now."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "2 hit the Towers, 1 landed short of the pentagon and skidded into the wall, and 1 in Penn."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Whoever did that +twink. Two words: Bite me. I'm lodging my opinion, like the rest of you. :> If you don't like it, you can get off the channel. :>"

<Public> Inferno says, "Okay..."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster heard it was Fort Detrich (sp?)

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Folks, you have to remember, we don't hear the news the way they do. Our terrorists might be their freedom fighters. And especially don't trust TV, for god's sake, they're driven to sum up in a few sentences stories that would take hours to tell. It's not a good information source."

<Public> DreadTread is a little pensive about what the state of Austin is atm...they may be in a scramble to protect the president's family. Downtown is prolly shut down.

<Public> Airlift says, "2 hit the WTC first, then one hit the pentagon, then the other crashed for unknown reasons in PA..they THINK it was headed for the white house, but somehow was diverted away by someone on board."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "It was Fort Detrich over Camp David...but that's mostly speculation too."

<Public> Inferno says, "They got Bush tucked away in NORAD yet?"

<Public> DreadTread says, "someplace safe, I'm sure"

<Public> Airlift says, "He's airborne still."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Officially no."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Dunno. I don't think they're releasing that info."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "We don't know where he's going"

<Public> Airlift says, "They're talking to sending Bush TO Camp David, so I think it's safe to say it wasn't hit or possibly hit."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "He's going to Colorado... to go under a mountain... Where planes can't hit"

<Public> Sheng says, "I somehow doubt that the news would be told the real landing site... Especialy with all of this"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Camp David is in Pensylvania. THey had a near hit. They ain't sending him there."

<Public> Inferno says, "Either that, or think about it. What better place to send him, than a target that's already been hit and removed from the strike list? That's a classic tactic."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "It wasn't. The plane crashed around Pittsburgh. They're speculating on the target. Some say Camp David, but that's been knocked off the list. Others say it was Fort Detrich, or the White House."

<Public> Airlift nods to Inferno

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "NORAD is far safer"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "if there were true danger, he'd not be in either. What's the name of that last place he'd be in? NICAP or something? A big plane, not AF1, that just stays in the air."

<Public> DreadTread says, "afk a few"

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "Though, it makes no sense to do that. They warned the President in advance, a HELL of a lot earlier than the plane woulda made it there."

<Public> Airlift says, "They have planes that never ever EVER land."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Last I heard he was in louisiana."

<Public> Inferno says, "Me, too."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster says, "That's where he made his speech, but they moved him."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Refueled, dropped a tape off like a half hour ago, and got back into the air."

<Public> Airlift says, "He went to Louisiana and RECORDED a speech, then went to the plane too."

<Public> Inferno says, "And at this point, who gives a damn? As long as he's protected, and he drops the bag to get something done."

<Public> Sheng says, "Guys, if the news is broadcasting this world wide, would YOU tell the people that are telling THE REST OF THE WROLD where your leader was?"

Tue Sep 11 15:09:34 2001

<Public> Moonracer says, "Nope.;>"

<Public> Moonracer says, "He's in an unknown location."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "If we could find out I'd bet on NORAD... That's what the place was made for"

<Public> Airlift says, "They scrambled fighter escorts for Airforce 1 when he left Sarasota Florida."

<Public> Walking Kegger! Mixmaster will admit, Bush should be kept safe. God help us if Cheney makes it to the White House.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "How do you attack a bunker located underneath a granite rock?"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "he won't be coming down from the air till it's safe."

<Public> Inferno says, "What's wrong with Dick Cheney, besides his ticker?"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "Poison gas in the ventilation system, Razor?"

<Public> Airlift says, "They'll just keep him in the air..he's safest there."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Its tough to get close to NORAD"

<Public> Moonracer says, "He will be in frickin NORAD. The air is NOT safe right now."

<Public> Inferno says, "No ventilation. The air is self sustainable. I saw that on a deal on the Discovery channel, or soemthing."

<Public> Sheng says, "We thught it was just as tough to get near the Pentagon."

<Public> Airlift says, "Dude, the ONLY PLANE in the air right now above america, is military planes."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "NORAD IS UNDER A GODDAMN MOUNTAIN!!!!!"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "What, you thik they're gonna fly in and bomb him out of the sky?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "The pentagon is a landmark. Norad is in a mountain somewhere in the middle of other mountains."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "The air is the safest place, Moony. He's surrounded by fighters, in a plane that can see anyone coming, and they'll shoot down anyone that comes remotely close."

<Public> Inferno says, "Right. You couldn't throw a rock in the air right now without getting it shot down."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Best of luck, he's got at least a squadron around him if he's in the air"

<Public> Airlift says, "I saw em shooting down mosquito's in holding patterns earlier ;)"

<Public> Inferno says, "heehee"

<Public> Sheng can just picture that...

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "cure for West Nile Virus? :P"

<Public> Airlift hehs, "That's a serious threat where I am Bran." :(

<Public> Bran Murdoch is in Atlanta...where that lady died.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "They nailed a seagull outside my window for not matching course and velocity."

<Public> Moonracer isn't sure she wants to know where Airlift is, but she does know they're finding dead birds with it in her city.

<Public> Inferno says, "I can hear the fighter jocks... "Yeah, two-one-niner, positive lock on bogey-malaria-one, permission to fire.""

<Public> Airlift is in Panama City, FL

<Public> Sheng is in Coral Springs, FL... Oh thank god, the rain stopped!

<Public> Moonracer says, "Good. Far enough away from me.;>"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Is in Iowa... Nice and safe"

<Public> Inferno says, "YES!!! John Hansen on the National News! WHOOHOOO!"

<Public> Airlift says, "*bzzzt* Affirmative two-one-niner, that's a greenlight to fire on bogey-malaria-one, repeat, fire at will! *bzzzt*"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Only thing of interest here is Rockwell"

<Public> Sheng grins at the mositio joke... Some of those buggers are big enough for that down here...

<Public> Inferno says, "NBC has one of Oklahoma City's finest on right now..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Unless you are going to napalm our crops"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "And just to prove life goes on even in the face of tragedy, I'm gonna go out for sloppy joe fixins, gotta still cook dinner tonight."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw is going to work tonight... Any bets on what we talk about?

<Public> Moonracer needs to go get her laundry done.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "You want a somber thought? Think of what it must have been like to be in the Tower.. people jumping out of windows to get out, from like the 100th floor... and what it must of been like when the Towers fell."

<Public> Sheng says, "No bets..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "They hopefully died of shock before hitting"

<Public> DreadTread says, "I think we're up to our armpits in somber thoughts already"

<Public> Airlift shakes his head, "People in the towers were dead before it fell from the smoke."

<Public> Sheng says, "I'd rather not think of that... PLEASE?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Sorry"

<Public> Airlift winces, "Sorry.." :(

<Public> Moonracer has a few more people who are waiting for news.

<Public> Sheng says, "It's okay..."

<Public> Inferno says, "Hopefully, but that's morbid to run your mind in that train of thought. The folks that are gone are just that. They're gone. Let us ALL pray and hope for the strength of the people that are facing this hell directly."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Confirmation that some of them are okay right now."

<Public> Poopdeck can imagine. Alright, people, new topic, Key Lime Pie, good or bad?

<Public> Bran Murdoch finds it odd, but his brother's duty station is safer than he would've been at his original spot in Fort Bliss. He's with the Air Defense Artillery in Saudi.

<Public> Moonracer says, "Key Lime pie is good. I have a recipe."

<Public> Airlift says, "Depends Poopdeck, real limes, or storebought pies?"

<Public> Moonracer needs to get the ingredients, and make one.

<Public> Inferno says, "Key Lime Pie, when nice and tarty with just a touch of lime peel shavings in the filling, is delicious. Not much better."

<Public> DreadTread says, "really? When you come to Dallas I expect you to make one at least, Moonie :)"

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Ooooo! Care to share? :)"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Rod, your back"

<Public> DreadTread says, "all that and cooking too, Theresa :) I'm impressed :)"

<Public> Moonracer says, "If I make it to Dallas. ;) Still waiting to hear about that job.;>"

<Public> Sheng says, "My mom just called!"

<Public> Airlift wants to hear what the black-box recordings.

<Public> DreadTread nods. Have faith...if not that, then something just as good or betteron the horizon :)

<Public> Moonracer cooks, sews, draws, sings, acts, ect, ect.

<Public> DreadTread says, "wohoo!"

<Public> Airlift says, "YAY! :)"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw knows this isn't the time, but can I discuss my TP with you all

<Public> DreadTread snugs Sheng :)

<Public> Airlift says, "Thank goodnesss :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "If you guys get a mind to whip me up some dinner and bring it this way, you're more than welcome to stay for a while."

Tue Sep 11 15:19:33 2001

<Public> Moonracer will share with ya PoopDeck.;)

<Public> DreadTread grins a Moonie:) Ya know, if you dug chicks.... ;)

<Public> Sheng says, "Now I just have to wait for news on my aunt and uncle and cousins..."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Makes my mouth water just thinking about it."

<Public> Airlift eyes DreadTread, "You dig chicks?"

<Public> Moonracer heh. "I'd be a good housewife.;)"

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "Sure... I need SOEMTHING to think about"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "What's wrong with chicks"

<Public> DreadTread says, "sure :) Like I've ever been secretive about that"

<Public> Inferno says, "Really? Just so happens I have an opening for a good housewife."

<Public> Airlift says, "Airforce 1 has landed at the headquarters of Strategic Air Command, Southeast of Omaha"

<Public> Bran Murdoch hugs Sheng.

<Public> Trailbreaker says, "bbl*poofs*"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "I was thinking that maybe one of the Predacons who didn't make it ran away."

<Public> Airlift droooooooooools on DreadTread..

<Public> Sheng's mom is okay and coming home....

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Yay!"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "She could come looking for revenge"

<Public> Moonracer likes intellegent conversation, Inferno.:)

<Public> Airlift says, "That's great Sheng"

<TinyPlot> Sheng blinks... Which Predacon?

<Public> Airlift says, "fantastic..a relief."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Yay! Okay, later. :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Oh... You're screwed with me, then."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "I'm having a flashback TP where Megatron has the Preds built."

<Public> Airlift says, "Being screwed could be good too! *ducks*"

<Public> DreadTread smirks

<Public> Moonracer says, "SHIT."

<Public> DreadTread says, "wha?"

<Public> Bran Murdoch looooooooks at Moony?

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "Cool"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "He has like seven or eight TFs built... He holds contests... The best get a gestalt... The rest go back to the freezer"

<Public> Moonracer says, "OH hell... Thank god... They were talking about explosions happening today at the depot- they have nerve gas there..."

<Public> Sheng breaths again....? WHAT?!

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "I was thinking about having one of them get away... Her name, Backstab. A weasel"

<Public> Moonracer says, "I only caught the bit about the explosions. It was a planned thing, and they couldn't reschedule- they're letting people know, so they don't panic."

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "...Weasel?"

<TinyPlot> Victory Leo says, "Why waste resources on building TFs if you're just going to freeze them though?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Nothing bad is going to happen."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "I know that... But its in the spirit of RP..."

<Public> Sheng is glad about that... Does anyone know the condition of the buildings AROUND the towers? I know my uncle worked NEAR the towers... not sure where

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The only thing I've heard of is that the AmEx building was on fire. That was like a half hour ago."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "And with all due respect... Even if there was more than enough energon to go around, the war would still continue. This war isn't about gas anymore... ITs about philosophy"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Not sure. SOme of them didn't look so good- but a lot of people got out when the first one hit."

<Public> Airlift says, "The American Express building was burning I heard..some damage to the sides of buildings facing the towers.."

<Public> Inferno says, "Looks like they have NYFD PR interviewing right now, and they're EXTREMELY cautious because of building collapse."

<Public> Airlift says, "they emptied EVERYONE from those buildings from what I heard though..and blocks away too."

<Public> Sheng says, "I don't think he worked there... They did? Oh thank god..."

<TinyPlot> Victory Leo says, "What's that got to do with anything?"

<TinyPlot> Sheng is confused...?

<Public> Moonracer finds another one of the people she knows who works in the area is home safe.

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "I'm just saying that energon really isn't the issue anymore"

<Public> Sheng says, "Who?"

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "That's true..."

<TinyPlot> Victory Leo says, "If the Decepticons are short on resources, I can't see them building 8 TFs in full knowledge that only 5 will be used."

<Public> Moonracer says, "A friend from TinyTIM. He had a 3 1/2 hour walk home. Set his @doing to 'HOME SAFE'... they're still concerned about other friends."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "But you want the best five? And if you are not sure which are."

<Public> Inferno says, "They did look salty, but losing Ed McAffrey is gonna hurt..."

<Public> DreadTread watches Leet look for something to hit me with...

<Public> DreadTread :)

<Public> Inferno says, "Mispage."

<Public> DreadTread snickers

<TinyPlot> Victory Leo says, "You'd still USE the other 3"

<Public> Sheng grins

<Public> Airlift spanks DreadTara with something

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Okay, your suggestion then LEo"

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "Not if they'd been badly damaged... or if the laser cores were not mde or something... I think... I don't know..."

<Public> DreadTread snickers. I'm NOT talking about football again...nope...nosiree...not here :)

<Public> Moonracer wonders if anyone else wants the key lime recipe.;)

<Public> DreadTread says, "yes please :)"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Okay... We can trash the others laser cores... accidently of course"

<Public> Sheng would?

<TinyPlot> Victory Leo says, "That'd work."

<Public> Inferno says, "Does it have barbecue sauce in the recipe?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Someone hacked www.taleban.com"

<Public> DreadTread says, "in key lime pie? You are from the south ;) Hehehehehe"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Good news is that MEgs can't cannon us over it"

<Public> Sheng grins. I like BBQ sauce... Okay, so maybe that sterotype fits...

<Public> Inferno says, "If it doesn't have barbecue sauce in the recipe, there's a 99.9 percent chance I won't be able to cook it. heehee"

<Public> DreadTread says, "guys...if any of you areof middle eastern descent here...please be careful, ok?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "@mail me your emails, I'll do it that way, so it'll be easier.;>"

Tue Sep 11 15:29:34 2001

<Public> Sheng NODS! you guys be careful, okay? There are going to be alot of people that aren't thinking right now!

<Admin> Rodimus Prime says, "Be back later tonight, dudes."

<Public> Inferno says, "YES!! ROFLMAO!!!"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Or put it up in the discussion board, Moonie"

<Admin> Moonracer waves.

<Public> DreadTread says, "now, about those Broncos..... ;)"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Well..... That might work. Hey Inferno, I'll give it to you too- it's an easy recipe, so you might be able to get it.;>""

<Public> Sheng takes a deep breath and thinks she is going to be okay... Her moms okay and, from whaat moonie said, her NY family should have been clear....

<Public> DreadTread nods and snugs :)

<Public> Inferno says, "No thanks... I have a hard enough time as it is without my bakin' pies all the time. I'd be as big as a house."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Okay, so how do I handle this Backstab chick?"

<Public> Inferno is busy laughing at www.taleban.com

<Public> Airlift says, "what are we putting up?"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "DO I beg someone to app for her as a temp char or what?"

<Public> Airlift says, "Ohhhh"

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "The body gets a new laser core and comes online for starters... I guess"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw knows that.

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "And that'd work... Do you want her dead after this TP is over?"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "I'm talking about her running away"

<TinyPlot> Sheng isn't thinking quite clearly yet... I'm trying, honest I am

<Public> Inferno says, "Dick with the U.S. of A., and get your sh!t hacked all kinds of up!"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "She is going to lose in the contest and run for it"

<Public> DreadTread says, "who put that up?"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Then show up present time and be a problem"

<Public> Sheng BLINKS? Okay, what did I miss?

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "That makes sense...."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Inter connects the TP..."

<Public> Moonracer says, "It's the official site for someone involved with the taleban. Someone hacked it."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "There will also be a second part to this one... Where we smash Iacon"

<Public> Airlift says, "Hey guys...if you fly a flag..or work somewhere that flies a flag...you need to put it to half mast."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Flashback of course"

<Public> Moonracer does not. And is not going to work today.

<Public> Airlift says, "I'm just saying.."

.<Public> Victory Leo went to work,came straight back home.

<Public> Moonracer hugs Leo. "Closed down?"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Is everywhere closed in America?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Pittsburgh is"

<Public> Colossus nods, "I think a lot of places closed.. especially up by us."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Burlington Wal-Mart is still open"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Most major cities have closed down most major things.. evactuated large buildings and such."

<Public> Colossus says, "er, NJ that is.."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane knows LAX at the least is evacuated.

<Public> Victory Leo says, "All airports have been shut down"

<Public> Sheng says, "My college closed down..."

<TinyPlot> Sheng is confused

<Public> Victory Leo thinks part of it is just that they know no one's goign to be productive today

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "About what?"

<Public> Inferno says, "My daughter's daycare is closed, apparently because it's less than a mile from the 3rd largest air force base in the U.S."

<Public> Airlift wonders where Tyndall rates on the 'largest' list..

<Public> Moonracer's department is closed at 4pm. I doubt many people are going to be going in for glasses tonight anyway.

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "Well... I'm not sure what you're planning... Maybe its becaue I'm so stressed and stuff... Can you please give me a run down so I understand?"

<Public> Inferno says, "And I thought it was bad here in Oklahoma City... I can only imagine what it's like up there."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Okay, Part one, Predacon birth, the cntests, etc... Backstab is losing and runs for it"

<Public> Airlift says, "The Palestinians are DANCING in the streets *growls*"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Oh god"

<Public> Airlift says, "Saying 'America had it coming'..."

<Public> Moonracer says, "ANd throwing candy."

<Public> Inferno says, "Yup. And they're showing it, only stoking the fire that much more."

<Public> Airlift says, "Baking cakes and giving them away.."

<Public> Colossus nods at Lifter..

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "That's just asking for trouble"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Part two, again another flashback. The Predacons help destroy the Autobot's last bastion on Cybertron in the 90s, Iacon."

Tue Sep 11 15:39:34 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "I got a cake for 'em. Strapped to the end of an M-16."

<Public> Airlift says, "The countries leaders are trying to shut them up, because the news is getting video of it.."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Part three, present time, Backstab comes back and makes trouble"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "Palestine is about to become the world's largest crater, if they don't watch out. USA is a bit easy to provoke right now."

<TinyPlot> Beachcomber idly notes /who/ was in command of Cybertron during that time. hint hint ;-)

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah. even that bastard Arafat is sucking up, because he knows, much like Japan, that we are a 'Sleeping Giant'."

<Public> Airlift says, "Britain has sworn to quote 'Wipe this evil from the world'."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Megatron had returned buddy... Read your history"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Britain was first to acknowledge that it WAS terrorists"

<TinyPlot> Sheng nods. that makes sense now, thanks

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "we ain't going to be asleep much longer."

<Public> Airlift says, "They've had the palestinian media there calling for attacks against American targets."

<Public> Moonracer says, "If your gas tank is not full, go fill it now. Have a feeling that gas prices are about to soar."

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "And Raz, Shockwave was the one realloy in control, Megs was on Earth most of the time"

<Public> Inferno says, "Probably..."

<Public> Airlift had been calm, but now my blood's pumping again..

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "I think"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Read news history earth6"

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Part on the TP is around March of 91"

<Public> Victory Leo filled up this morning

<TinyPlot> Beachcomber was in command of Cybertron, I mean. Not neccesarily the specific attack.

<Public> Bran Murdoch is about to run out and do that...

<Public> Sheng is just... I don't know... I'm too stressed to be angry

<TinyPlot> Beachcomber says, "Er.. Shox was. Presumably Megs went right back home afterward."

<Public> Moonracer says, "We're discussing it on TinyTim. There are a few of the people who are there who work in NYC."

<Public> Inferno says, "Granted, I'd have been extremely pissed regardless, but there's 200+ firefighters in that hell that are MIA. Probably dead. You might as well have thumped that plane into my house."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "Getting your alts confused again"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Isreal is offering to send relief teams"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And they are used to doing this clean up."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Although not on this scale"

<Public> Airlift sighs, "What a reversal that is."

<TinyPlot> Beachcomber usually doesn't bother specifying which alt I mean. It's usually obvious.

<Public> Inferno says, "Israel needs to stay home, and get ready for the storm."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at AIrlift.

<Public> Bran Murdoch also nods at Ferno.

<Public> Moonracer says, "My family has been involved with firefighting for two generations. I understand."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Isreal is hoping that this will piss us off enough that anytime terrorism strikes over there that we will come over with bells on"

<Public> Colossus says, "Who thinks a counter might come by tonight if we definately find out who it was?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Not tonight"

<Public> Sheng says, "I don't know?"

<Public> Airlift thinks a counterstrike will come tomorrow, even if we aren't 100% sure.

<TinyPlot> Sheng didn't know for a bit, BC

<Public> Moonracer says, "Veep is still in the white house."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Bush is going to make sure we have the right people and then smash them"

<Public> Inferno says, "Are you kiddin'? I'll kiss your butt if forces in the Gulf aren't already mustered, waiting for word."

<Public> Sheng says, "God, I hope not"

<TinyPlot> Beachcomber sorries, Sheng. "I usually end up mentioning routinely that Shox is my alt."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "not tonight. Hopefully not tomorrow, unless we know for a fact who did it. But once we know...they don't need to draw breath anymore."

<Public> Sheng says, "I hope we don't attack before 100 percent sure that is"

<Public> Airlift says, "I would honestly, not be surprised if Palestine is an occupied country by the end of the week."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "All US armed forces are on high alert"

<TinyPlot> Shockwave says, "But if it'll help..."

<Public> Moonracer says, "They are probably waiting for word- you cannot think that they are not. They probably feel as helpless as we do."

<Public> Airlift says, "Err..afghanistan that is. :)"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "their attitudes are leaning it in that direction."

<Public> Inferno says, "We're at Check Force Delta here on Tinker. Might as well be Defcon 1."

<TinyPlot> Sheng says, "It's okay, but if I didn't know for a bit, maybe Raz forgot too (I mean, I forgot for a while AFTER you told me... granted, I have no memory in the first place, but still)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Or Five, whichever one means it has hit the fan."

<Public> Airlift says, "Defcon's only nukes I thought.. :)"

<Public> Sheng prays we never use nukes...

<Public> Inferno says, "Doesn't matter... I was using it to stress the point."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Dfcon five is bad and its for nukes only"

<Public> Airlift says, "The armed forces _are_ being mobilized I'm certain..in the middle east and abroad. We're calling in allies too I'm sure."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "Defcon is Defense Condition"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw might be wrong about thast nukes only thing

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "they are. My bro's in Saudi, Jag officer with an ADA detachment. They're on Alpha."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "But WHAT would America bomb?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Anything that moves"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Shit, we are shooting anything that flies right now"

<Public> Inferno says, "The West Bank. Dance now, you pumped up candy throwin' sons a bitches."

<Public> Sheng says, "Whoever was behind the attacks.. and I hope we don't do what my dad said... and 'flatten them and leave them glowing' ..."

<Public> Burnout says, "Only reason we're doing that now Raz is because there shouldn't be anything flying."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Afganastan. Wherever Ussama Bin Ladin is."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Some kid is going to be flying his model airplane and the Air Force is going to Sidewinder it"

<Public> Bran Murdoch is opposed to the 'glowing' part.

<Public> Sheng is too! I do NOT want a nuclear war...

Tue Sep 11 15:49:33 2001

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "but 'fattening' would be acceptable to me."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw doesn't like the idea of glowing either

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "err....flattening, even."

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah... If we nuked Afghanistan, not only would India be on our ass, but China, too, I'd bet."

<TinyPlot> Shockwave will try to make it clearer next time.

<Public> Sheng says, "But what about the civilans that had no part in this? Wouldn't that make us as bad as them?"

<TinyPlot> Sheng snugs.

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Both are nuke-capable"

<Public> Inferno says, "Victims, yes, but war is NOT a sanitary business like we were led to believe during the Persian Gulf conflict."

<Public> Airlift has heard a LOT of people in favor of flattening it.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Nukes are only for threat... Mutually Assured Distruction"

<Public> Airlift says, "blasting them right back to the stone age."

<Public> Colossus says, "Plus.. you know that Ladin is most likely not in Afghanistan.."

<Public> Burnout hmms, not to dimish anything but now it's interfering with transformers being on FOX. Nothing like the same news being repeated at infanitum.

<Public> Airlift says, "No, Ladin IS in Afghanistan."

<Public> Airlift says, "It's the only place he's safe, they've given him refuge there."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "If Afghanistan wants to stay on our good side, they will hand him over"

<Public> Airlift says, "THey've refused to do so repeatedly."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Afghanistan doesn't care about our good side."

<Public> Airlift says, "They're protecting him, because the government there SUPPORTS him..has funded him."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "This is different... We are alittle pissed"

<Public> Airlift says, "The national media there was calling for just this sort of attack on America."

<Public> Sheng says, "God... forget a 'little' pissed... Thousands dead..."

<Public> Inferno says, "And they're willing to go to war. Hell, they were on the verge of tossing nukes over the border with India not very long ago, remember?"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "if they refuse and we want him, we'll smash them into the ground. Not conquering. Destroying."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And if they don't cough him up, well... Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "That was Pakistan, I thought, Fern."

<Public> Airlift says, "This was an act of war. If Afgahnistan protects the perpetrators, they are comitting further acts of war. They should be dealt with."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Pakistan has the nukes."

<Public> Inferno says, "You're right... Ignore me."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "If Afghanistan had nukes, they probably would've used 'em today."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "We do anyways, Inferno"

<Public> Inferno says, "Good point. hahaha"

<Public> Airlift says, "Exactly, praise the lord and pass the ammunition."

<Public> Colossus laughs at the Dixie Chick's song reference.. ;)

<Public> Airlift says, "That is NOT a dixie chicks song reference :P"

<Public> Airlift says, "Yeesh."

<Public> Airlift just facepalms.

<Public> Sheng sighs?

<Public> Bran Murdoch double facepalms with a half gainer.

<Public> Moonracer hugs Sheng.

<Public> Burnout holds up a card that says 9.5 after Bran finishes his half gainer.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Has Russia made an official announcement... besides we are sorry"

<Public> Sheng wishes there was a way to kill the people responible without killing the innocent people that have no part in this... I'ts not THIR fault...

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "And same with country that runs over its own people with tanks"

<Public> Inferno says, "Not that I've heard... They have a vested interest in Afghanistan, don't they? Isn't that where they had their own little Vietnam?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "If there was a way, it would be done."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Was it Afghan or Pak? I can't remember"

<Public> Sheng says, "I know... I still wish."

<Public> Inferno says, "I'm pretty sure it was Afghanistan..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Anyone who cheers what happened today isn't innocent..."

<Public> Airlift says, "all the aircraft were 757's and 767's..which have the same flight deck."

<Public> Airlift says, "They think the terrorists might have been in the country a lnog time, learning to fly the planes."

<Public> DreadTread nods

<Public> Sheng says, "One of the pilots shut off their engines before hitting to minimize the damage... Not sure which one yet"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "To hit the towers, I would say so"

<Public> Inferno says, "What happened to the FAA having locked and bulletproof cockpits installed?"

<Public> DreadTread says, "it was well financed, and well planned. I rather think the government of an entire country was behind this."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Afghan is my bet..."

<Public> Airlift says, "And I have to say btw, that there are no 'innocents' in whatever country that is."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "It doesn't have to be, DT. Just well-organised. If it was a government, wouldn't they have used bombs and missiles?"

<Public> Airlift says, "Kill them all..otherwise some other fanatics are going to crop up in ten years mad that we killed their father who was fighting a holy war against us."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Plausible deniability, Leet"

<Public> Inferno says, "Why? when they could play the card of 'Oooh, it was a terrorist, don't kick our ass.'."

<Public> Airlift says, "Leet, bombs and missiles mean signatures. You can take one of those apart and figure out who it came from."

<Public> DreadTread says, "no neccessarily...we've been on alert for bombs since flight 801 and missiles wouldhave been shot down"

<Public> DreadTread says, "damn keeyboard"

<Public> Airlift says, "There was a passenger on one of the planes that got a cell phone call off."

<Public> Sheng nods... Which plane, do you know?

<Public> Airlift says, "The one that went down in PA"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "But it makes no SENSE. Why does no-one take responsibility. It wasn't surgical strikes, it was symbolic ones"

<Public> Inferno says, "The one in PA..."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "If you are able to give blood, do so... Estimates I heard on the radio is that most of the country's blood supply will be used up in the next few days"

<Public> Airlift says, "Because Leet, if someone takes responsibility, they are dead. Period."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "WTC and the Pentagon... That's surgical to me... Very presice"

<Public> DreadTread nods. I'm waiting until later in the week after they take in the massive inflow of donations now.

<Public> Moonracer will be going when she can get there.

<Public> Airlift says, "Raz, the blood centers NATIONWIDE are overwhelmed..with lines out the doors :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "What happened to the early reports that a Palestinian group claimed responsibility for the WTC flights?"

Tue Sep 11 15:59:34 2001

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "It was one person claiming for the group"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Right now there is probably going to be a long wait."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "The group as a whole has said HELL NO! we didn't do it"

<Public> Airlift says, "Lord..can you imagine if they hit the white house first and not the pentagon?"

<Public> Sheng nods. I heard about the lines... I think waiting until you an get there would be best... Ummm, if you have a really bad cold, does that mean you can't give blood?

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "They prolly realized that they'd be dead before the weekend."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Bush was gone."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Bad cold means no to giving blood"

<Public> Inferno says, "Yup. Raz is right."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet heard that the White House was where the Pensylvania plane was heading

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw is going to give... O+

<Public> Airlift says, "He was in Sarasota FL..not too far from me.."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Fun. Suspicious people taken off of a train in Bimringham."

<Public> Sheng says, "Drat... That means I can't give any:( Stupid chest cold go away!"

<Public> Inferno says, "O+ here, too, but I gave only a couple of weeks ago. Aren't you supposed to wait 6 weeks?"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "six weeks"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "My fiancee would give, but can't yet... Not for another week or so"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I think"

<Public> Airlift says, "Don't risk yourself.."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Is it six months or a year after getting a body piercing?"

<Public> Inferno says, "I think it's a year."

<Public> Burnout doesn't even know his blood type having never given blood, he absolutly can't stand needles.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "then she can't give until February"

<Public> Moonracer thought it was eight. "I'd give more if I could."

<Public> Inferno says, "It probably varies depending on the organization. Oklahoma Blood Institute is a year."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "What's the Red Cross"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Don't look, Burnout. I don't like needles either- I just don't watch them put it in.""

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "That's how I do it"

<Public> Sheng doesn't like needles, but people need blood... if I wasn't sick I'd go wait in the lines

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "You feel the prick, but that's about it"

<Public> Victory Leo has O- but I can't give, low blood pressure

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Red Cross says that you don't need to give right away."

<Public> DreadTread says, "needles scare me too...so I nervously make jokes and try in vain to pretend that I am not about ready to pass out :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "I make them let me lick the needle before they stick it in, and I whoop and holler when they do, pounding my chest and shouting about how much of a stud I am."

<Public> Moonracer is A+ blood. Have a friend who absolutely hates needles, and has refused to go with her before talking about going to do it.

<Public> Burnout could give right now anyway, he's had a cold.

<Public> Airlift says, "Pentagon briefing"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Damn, Leo... you a prefect donater too"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw can't spell today

<Public> Inferno wants some of Vic's blood, because he's freaky like that.

<Public> Victory Leo says, "My whole immediate family is O-"

<Public> Moonracer wishes we could grab a bloodmobile for in front of Sam's this week.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Then tell them to GIVE GIVE GIVE"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Heh. My immediate family is o+"

<Public> Moonracer says, "But they can't give.:P"

<Public> Victory Leo thinks Mom gives. I don't know about my sisters. I know Dad doesn't, he's needlephobic

<Public> Inferno says, "Hit them with sticks if you gotta, Moonie."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "O+ is almost as good... Most of the population is + anyways"

<Public> Moonracer says, "You never know, Leo. He may change his mind."

<Public> Inferno says, "Rosie the Riveter says, "Give Blood!""

<TinyPlot> Sheng sorries... Did I miss a pose or something?

<Public> Victory Leo says, "It's not a matter of changing his mind. He has seizures when he's stuck with needles."

<TinyPlot> Razorclaw says, "nope..."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Which part of /can't/ do you not understand, Inferno? Aside from the medications that they're on, my mom has had hepititis."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "No needles for Leo's dad"

<Public> Airlift says, "Rosie the Riveter says, "Give Blood or I'll rivet your ass!""

<Public> Moonracer ahhs. That's way needlephobic.

<Public> Sheng says, "Yipes..."

<Public> DreadTread says, "they've been fairly unable to pin down my type...first it was typed AB+ then A+ then B+. If they want mystery blood, I'll be happy to let them have some :)"

<Public> Victory Leo nods. It's a medical condition, not just a dislike :)

<Public> Inferno says, "Noooo... You were saying something about needing a bloodmobile outside of Sam's, and I was adding on that."

<Public> Moonracer grins. "Most people who claim to be needlephobic are not like that.. Oh!"

<Public> Airlift listens to the news..

<Public> Moonracer can call the red cross, and if they have enough personell to do it she can talk with the management at Sam's. Dolores can kiss her ass though.

<Public> Moonracer says, "But I can't do anything about it until tomorrow."

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah. Damn that Delores. She's a communist, anyway."

<Public> Moonracer says, "She's a skank."

<Public> DreadTread takes off to take care of some things. BBL!

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah. A commie skank."

<Public> DreadTread snugs all. Be safe folks :)

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I need to sleep before work"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "So I go to go..."

<Admin> Judge DreadTread says, "later folks!"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "At least try and sleep"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Laters"

<Public> Sheng says, "THEY CALLED!!!! They're okay!"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Told ya! YAY"

<Public> Inferno says, "Good to hear."

Tue Sep 11 16:09:33 2001

<Public> Airlift cheers! :)

<Public> Sheng breaths... They had just moved and didn't work in the city!!!

<Public> Dust Devil says, "looks like alot of people made it through."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw gives hugs to those that need or want them... Handshakes to the rest

<Public> Sheng says, "They hadn't told us before hand becasue at the time it wasn't important!!"

<Public> Sheng HUGS

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Bye"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Pentagon briefing."

<Public> Bran Murdoch megahugs Sheng.

<Public> Airlift says, "FEMA Search and Rescue teams are activated.."

<Public> Sheng wishes them luck

<Public> Moonracer hugs Sheng.:)

<Public> Inferno says, "Fuckin' A. Pardon my language, but hell yeah."

<Public> Sheng hugs back.

<Public> Inferno hugs Moonie and Sheng, just because hugging two chicks sounds like the thing to do.

<Public> Sheng hugs back because her family is okay....

<Public> Moonracer runs off to do laundry, because she has no choice at the moment.

<Public> Moonracer bbl.

<Public> Airlift says, "americanexpress.com is down."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "I wonder if their building fell yet."

<Public> Inferno says, "Not yet, or at least it hasn't been reported as such."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Last I heard a few hours ago, they were getting everyone back from it, cause the side facing the WTC was on fire."

<Public> Inferno says, "They've probably already rolled in the Corps of Engineers to strut jack anything at risk of collapse."

<Public> Airlift nods, "The Corps of Engineers can put a building back together with bubblegum, duct tape and popsicle sticks.

<Public> Inferno says, "If even that..."

<Public> Sheng says, "True"

<Public> Airlift says, "56 days before you can give blood."

Tue Sep 11 16:19:32 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "Do what?"

<Public> Airlift says, "You can give blood every 56 days."

<Public> Inferno says, "Ohhh..."

<Public> Airlift blinks, "How could the New York Stock Exchange open tomorrow? I thought it was IN the towers?"

<Public> Sheng says, "I have no idea"

<Public> Inferno says, "I don't know myself."

<Public> Sheng says, "That's all we need on top of this... the stock market to crash or something"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Wall St is south of it."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Closer to the tip itself of Manhattan."

<Admin> Parsec yawns

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "My city has been shut down and most of it has been evacuated."

<Public> Airlift says, "where are you Venom?"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Atlanta"

<Public> Bran Murdoch hugs Venom. "My classes were cancelled."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "There were rumours of martial law, but I haven't heard anything else about it."

<Public> Sheng says, "So were mine"

<Public> Bran Murdoch hasn't either. Gas prices are going up, too.

<Public> Inferno says, "Not us here in Oklahoma. We've had a bombing, an F-5 tornado, God knows what else. We're tough down here."

<Public> Sheng says, "I think that is the least of our problems"

<Public> Juggernaut had an interview in Seattle later today. However, because of this, the guy canceled.

<Public> Airlift says, "Lack of gasoline can bring America to it's knees just the same as a bombing."

<Public> Sheng says, "True."

<Public> Sheng says, "But just the prices going up won't kill us..."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "We have emergency reserves."

<Public> Sheng says, "Geez, and today was just 'another day'"

<Public> Airlift says, "9/11...911...."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "I girl at my job had her birthday today. This is not what she asked for:)"

<Public> Airlift says, "that just..is strange"

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "Who, Ven?"

Tue Sep 11 16:29:33 2001

<Public> Sheng says, "*shudders* Aye... A day that shall live in iafamy, to use a qoute taht applies to this."

<Public> Juggernaut says, "I don't think that was a coincidence, Airlift. This was, obviously, planned for quite some time."

<Public> Inferno says, "Hell yeah... Our Governor, Frank Keating, came right out and said that any stations charging ungodly prices for gas are GOUGING on purpose."

<Public> Airlift says, "There's a good quote.."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "This was a planned attack."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The timing, the planes they used..."

<Public> Airlift says, "Most American's aren't concerned anymore about bringing them to justice, we're concerned with sending them to hell!"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Everyone of them heading for California, so they would have plenty of fuel."

<Public> Sheng nods.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The biggest explosion possible short of explosives."

<Public> Inferno says, "Yup. To hell with a one-way ticket wrapped in Stars and Stripes."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "ABC's got footage itself."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Of actually in the epicenter."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Of what?"

<Admin> Parsec says, "Gah."

<Admin> Parsec hears about gas prices and goes to fill up his car. I'm running on fumes now.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The carnage of the dropped towers."

<Public> Inferno says, "I just saw footage on NBC of a cameraman filming the first collapse, then the cloud of debris closing on him, then his tucking the camera and running like hell."

<Public> Airlift says, "No F16's shot down any planes (drat)"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Watching Dan Rather cry kinda shock me up, I mean with everything he's seen...."

<Public> Inferno says, "Dan Rather is a pompous ass."

<Public> Sheng says, "I saw that too..."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Regardless."

<Public> Inferno says, "I almost threw up listening to his drivel watching him on The O'Reilly Factor the other night.,"

<Public> Inferno says, "He calls himself a newsman... Edwin Neuman is a newsman. Rock solid."

<Public> Inferno says, "Yes! Former Director of the FBI, now Governor of the State of Oklahoma, Frank Keating, is layin' down the hammer! Slam those price gouging bastards!"

<Public> Sheng blinks?

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "What channel?"

<Public> Inferno says, "It's local."

<Public> Sheng thinks it may be a state only... yup

Tue Sep 11 16:39:33 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "Gas yesterday was $1.40-1.48. After this incident, some stations are charging up to $4.00 per gallon, and we're not gonna stand for it."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Holy shit."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Damn..."

<Public> Sheng says, "HOLY"

<Public> Inferno says, "People are pounding the gas stations in fear of a fuel shortage."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "So they are cranking the prices."

<Public> Airlift sighs, "This..is so horrible."

<Public> Inferno says, "Either a shortage, or a drastic increase in price. Terminal officials say even in bad circumstances we'd see $.30 to $.40 cent increases. It was just reported of stations charging $6.50 p/gal."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Oh, boo hoo, petrol is expensive. People have DIED. Perspective please"

<Public> Sheng nods and hugs, A. It sounds like they're just using this to get money.

<Public> Airlift doesn't care much about gas prices..

<Public> Sheng doen't either... and trust me Leet, I understand the fact that people are dead...

<Public> Airlift was listening to the radio, "A nurse in one of the hospitals, was emailing her husband working in the building back and forth, he was telling her he was okay..then the email just..stopped coming (probably IM's actually)..and she looked out the window and saw the building coming down.

<Public> Sheng says, "I think most of the people here do."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet knows, sorry

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Its more the fact that people are using the deaths to make money."

<Public> Airlift says, "He was trapped up on one of the upper floors, and waiting for rescue."

<Public> Sheng says, "Oh god..."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "God.. where are you hearing all this?"

<Public> Airlift says, "Uhh..radio? I think it's NBC or CNN"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "May God have mercy on all their souls..."

<Public> Inferno says, "Now the local news station is stepping up, too. But Oklahoma can't enact the anti-price gouging laws unless there has been a declared state of emergency. Then, and only then, can they lock down pricing and prosecute offenders."

<Public> Airlift says, "Tom Brokaw"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane is not a religious man.. but I hope there is some form of Afterlife.. something for these people..

<Public> Inferno says, "Like I said earlier, pray, and come to arms, fellow Americans. Let those stories draw emotional blood, and look for the cold comfort of vengeance."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "An eye for an eye makes us all blind"

<Public> Sheng says, "But vengeance begets vengence... blood demands blood..."

<Public> Inferno says, "Which I will wash my hands with in pride."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom waits for opinions like Inferno's to lead to WWIII

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Death is NEVER an action borne of pride"

<Public> Airlift says, "The executive producer from Frasier was on one of the flights, with his family."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "One of my roommates had family in the Towers in NY"

<Public> Airlift says, "It's nothing to be proud of, it's nothing to enjoy. But the actions taken against America, must be responded to, and justice must be served."

Tue Sep 11 16:49:33 2001

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet knows, but indiscriminate bombing solves NOTHING

<Public> Inferno waits for people to realize that their own family could have been in any of those buildings. In a way, your family WAS in those buildings. Your family, as in the people that make the greatest nation in the world, the one where you happen to live. There is no room for peaceful negotiation when blood has ALREADY been drawn.

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Kill one innocent person and you've lost"

<Public> Airlift says, "There are no innocents in a country where the men, women and children dance in the streets to celebrate the cold blooded murder of innocent Americans."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom doesn't care as long as it doesn't escilate to nuclear war.

<Public> Sheng says, "I know already Inferno... I thought my family was there, remember? That doesn't mean I want to detroy entire nations... Maybe I'm not 'nrmal' becasue of it..."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "Oh, you're normal, Sheng."

<Public> Airlift says, "They're advising muslims to stay out of public, asking for police around mosques(sp), and so forth.."

<Public> Sheng says, "For not wanting to flatten people?"

<Public> Airlift says, "There's no room to want to stand on the fence anymore though."

<Public> Airlift says, "As a nation..America must move."

<Public> Inferno says, "I don't want to see people die, either, on a normal day in the life, Sheng. Normalcy is gone, washed away in the belch of flame that was a 757 careening into a World Trade Center tower."

<Public> Gridlock says, "Hey, all. I'm logging in from work - the US Army in Europe is on alert, and we're all in our offices."

<Public> Airlift says, "Thousands of innocent Americans..dead.."

<Public> Airlift says, "You're Army Gridlock? God bless you, and keep you safe man."

<Public> Sheng sighs... I know... I know.

<Public> Inferno says, "You in the service, Gridlock?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane agrees with Lift.

<Public> Airlift says, "Bush is going back to DC."

<Public> Gridlock says, "Sure am. SPC Boone, Jacob F. B Det., 38th PSB."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Sheng. "Normal people don't _want_ that. They want to live in peace. But when people won't let us live in peace, we are willing to act to preserve it."

<Public> Inferno says, "Throw my two bits on that, too. And thank you for your service to this fine nation. You keep it tight that you got this Okie behind you 100 percent."

<Public> Airlift says, "As Bush said, Freedom itself was attacked today by a faceless coward...and Freedom will be defended."

<Public> Gridlock says, "I appreciate it. This is nervous stuff for a lot of us right now. I'm a computer techie, so chances that I'll see combat are slim, but right outside the window..."

<Public> Sheng nods and hugs Gridlock, wishing him luck.... And... your right guys... I'm sorry

<Public> Gridlock says, "...a lot of my friends are moving tanks and trucks around, getting ready to be pointed in some direction."

<Public> Inferno says, "Don't apologize, Sheng. Just think of the realism of the situation."

<Public> Sheng nods

<Public> Airlift says, "This woman started on like, the 90somethingth floor of the WTC, and made it all the way down the stairs and out..so I'm betting the death tolls aren't as bad as we've suspected first.."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Gridlock. "You guys make us proud, y'know? You stand up and do what's right."

<Public> Inferno says, "Our prayers are with all of you guys, Jacob."

<Public> Airlift says, "I'm hoping the death tolls aren't as bad as we've suspected at first.."

<Public> Gridlock says, "Just keep me posted. We've got no outside news source here."

<Public> Bran Murdoch afks for a bit.

<Public> Sheng nods and agrees with Inf and Bran on this... I hope so too A.

<Public> Inferno says, "Not a problem. We've got the world at our fingertips, here."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "I still can't believe they've locked down my city."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Where's that, Venom?"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom lives in Atlanta, GA

Tue Sep 11 16:59:32 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "This is history, gentlemen. Possibly the first day of a process we'll never forget. The actions we take from this step forward is what will make the history books your grandkids will read. Tread proud. You could be famous someday."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Be that good or bad? :)"

<Public> Airlift says, "Inferno, go hug your kid, take a few minutes off, you're starting to sound southern. :)"

<Public> Airlift ;)

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Here, around us, history is being written, this is a day that will last as long as this country, and here we sit, MUSHing:)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah... I got past being so pissed, now I feel like SuperPatriot. Go figure."

<Public> Bran Murdoch noogies Venom. :)

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Think of anything better to do, Venom?"

<Public> Inferno says, "heehee"

<Public> Gridlock says, "We must be careful, though. We can't tread on our American liberties in the name of security."

<Public> Airlift says, "A few liberties being given up, aren't more important to me than thousands of lives..millions of lives affected.."

<Public> Sheng grins. He has a point... This day is, basically, a modern Pearl Harbor... and we're stiing here getting swivel chair butt.... We are freaky people

<Public> Bran Murdoch looks at Venom. "We could be famous! We could be the ones who stop the terrorist plot because the plans they want to copy are copyrighted!"

<Public> Inferno says, "Defintely not. If I could remember the quote, I'd mention it, something to that extent."

<Public> Gridlock says, "That's what I'm afraid of."

<Public> Forge says, "I wish I could get past being Pissed Inferno. But its kinda difficult when you can see the Buildings burning from your driveway while standing there in shock in your bathrobe before work. Not to mention my company had an office on the 86th floor in tower 1 and 3 people are unacounted for."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "I was scared for half the day that I would be under martial law."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Instead of in front of the TV, Sheng, which is where most people will be?"

<Public> Airlift says, "You aren't getting video feed..are you Gridlock?"

<Public> Sheng nods. Yeah... God, I hope their alright Forge

<Public> Inferno says, "And being 'pissed' is not a bad thing. I'll probably go back to 'pissed' mode here before too long, myself."

<Public> Gridlock says, "Ben Franklin, I think, said something to the effect of, "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security." But now isn't the time for philosophical argument. Now is the time for some righteous butt-kicking."

<Public> Inferno says, "Again, pardon my language, but Fuckin' A."

<Public> Bran Murdoch can agree with Gridlock.

<Public> Airlift doesn't want to lose his liberties, "I want the people who would threaten my liberties to lose their lives."

<Public> Gridlock says, "No video feed yet, but I'm currently working on bypassing the Army siteblocks."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Heh."

<Public> Airlift says, "Gridlock..it's..it's horrible."

<Public> Airlift says, "Words fail."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom agrees with Heilien, "You're a citizen or a civilian."

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Venom.

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Heinlien?"

<Public> Bran Murdoch nods at Venom.

<Public> Inferno says, "Heineken?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Writer. Starship Troopers"

<Public> Bran Murdoch thwaps Inferno.

<Public> Inferno says, "How could a beer write a book?"

<Public> Gridlock says, "Heinlein. Robert."

<Public> Inferno says, "Must have beer on the brain."

<Public> Airlift shudders.

<Public> Bran Murdoch thwaps Inferno.

<Public> Airlift says, "In one hour...the world changed today."

<Public> Gridlock says, "I'm reading a lot of absolutely horrific anecdotes."

<Public> Bran Murdoch preferred the book to the Movie of course.

<Public> Inferno says, "The movie sucked. Never read the book."

<Public> Sheng shudders... In those few actions... God... The towers have falled, the Pentegon has taken bad damage and who knows how many peopledead or unaccounted for?

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "book rocked."

<Public> Inferno says, "I'll look to pick it up. I haven't had a good read in a while."

<Public> Bran Murdoch says, "it's quite a bit different from the movie."

<Public> Sheng says, "Fallen even... I can't spell"

Tue Sep 11 17:09:33 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "Has anyone heard anything more about the car bomb in front of the State Dept.?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane likes it better than the movie.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "I've seen a few stations mention it, but no real confirmation."

<Public> Gridlock says, "No car bomb. The rumor was dispelled by the State Dept."

<Public> Sheng says, "No... WE've got the TVs on two differant channels and the radio on, but nothing... Maybe we missed it"

<Public> Look at your pants! It's an Inferno says, "Okay..."

<Public> Sheng whews... That's one good thing

<Public> Airlift says, "Radio dispelled that one, no car bomb"

<Public> Airlift says, "Also, no F16's shot down any planes."

<Public> Bran Murdoch heard reports of flames in the State Dept, but also heard that it was an unsubstantiated rumor.

<Public> Disco Inferno says, "Good to hear."

<Public> Airlift says, "And nothing in Dallas"

<Public> Airlift says, "Nor in Colorado."

<Public> Disco Inferno says, "There was a shooter on the grassy knoll in Dallas."

<Public> Airlift says, "The White House was never on fire, and the state dept wasn't either according to news sources :)"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "40 years too late."

<Public> Airlift says, "There was no second gunman on the grassy knoll."

<Public> Disco Inferno says, "Yes there was."

<Public> Gridlock says, "And he was a Decepticon."

<Public> Airlift says, "They have most of the fires out now, #7 is still burning and they think it's going to collapse."

<Public> Airlift says, "It's about half as tall as #2 (one of the towers)"

<Public> Sheng says, "Oh geez"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "#7?"

<Public> Airlift says, "I have no idea what that buildings less official name."

<Public> Forge says, "brand new Verizon building. Tower 2 practically fell on it"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Mien Gott in Himmel."

<Public> Disco Inferno says, "Photographs of a puff of smoke from behind the fence, reports from people immediately afterwards in Dealey Plaza told that most people looked towards the knoll, after hearing what sounded like firecrackers. The bullet trajectories, unless you actually buy that load of Warren Commission crap, show that Kennedy actually received an entrace wound to the throat, in which a tracheotomy was performed over... Tons more evidence I could rip off for you."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "I'm just waiting for this building to collapse."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Why?"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Oh shit......"

<Public> Airlift says, "what!?"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "What?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Burning still."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "What, Venom?"

<Public> Sheng says, "Shit...."

<Public> Airlift says, "WHAT?!!?"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "What?"

<Public> Airlift says, "I dont' have video here!"

<Public> Disco Inferno says, "Not to mention the man that had his face cut by a chip of concrete from the curb just outside of the overpass, that was hit by an errant bullet, removing one of the three shots Oswald supposedly did his damage with."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "My roommate's dad is/was a cop in NY, we're not sure."

<Public> Airlift says, "They sent the firemen in first..hopefully he's okay..hopefully.."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "His dad's not that kinda cop, he's the type to go in first...."

<Public> Airlift sighs :(

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Oh god..."

<Public> Sheng says, "Oh geez.... *hugs*"

Tue Sep 11 17:19:32 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "Are you kidding? Site Commander and First Responder crews would run a cop off in a heartbeat. NYFD has jurisdiction."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "I hope so."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "He had family in the towers as well, I don't think there's a firefighter on the planet could have stopped me from going in there."

<Public> Forge says, "with 10000 rescue workers on site, I doubt they would run anyone off."

<Public> Gridlock says, "I wish your roomie... and his dad... luck."

<Public> Sheng says, "And his family"

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "Just found out, Cop is ok! WOO!"

<Public> Inferno says, "There's a very good chance that not many police officers even entered the building after the plane struck. They're not equipped, and like I said, first responder captain or the site commander could tell the Pope to get lost if he wanted to."

<Public> Inferno says, "Good to hear..."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane facepalsm at the guy on TNT. He's showing the flight paths.. the two planes he says its the WTC.. draws a straight line for DC.

<Public> Sheng CHEERS!

<Public> Airlift phews..

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "He did get injured in the collapse, but he'll be alright."

<Public> Airlift says, "A friend of mine's, friends father was on one of the flights. :("

<Public> Sheng hugs

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Oh hell"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet is really sorry

<Public> Airlift doesn't know them, but feels bad for them..

<Public> Sheng hugs Airlift...

<Public> Inferno says, "Now wait... They're saying now that a flight out of Philly, the one that crashed in western PA was headed for Camp David. Which flight was out of Philly? I thought they were all out of Boston and Dulles."

<Public> Airlift says, "this reporter..is going to get a pulitzer for his pictures. He ran out from the towers, was down under the stuff as it was falling..barely survived."

<Public> Airlift says, "Two from Boston, one from dulles, one from Newark"

<Public> Forge says, "one of the planes that hit the wtc was out of newark, the other out of boston."

<Public> Sheng nods...

<Public> Airlift says, "The one that hit the Pentagon was from Dulles I think.."

<Public> Inferno says, "They just mentioned on the local NBC affiliate that the plane that crashed SE of Pittsburgh was out of Philly. Maybe they screwed up."

<Public> Confection Pants Venom says, "I'm out kids."

<Public> Airlift says, "And then the other plane CRASHED in PA.."

<Public> Airlift says, "80 miles from Philly."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Both of the planes that hit the Tower, were from Logan, I thought"

<Public> Forge says, "thought it was 80 from Pittsburgh?"

<Public> Inferno says, "80 miles from Pittsburgh."

<Public> Airlift says, "That's waht I meant, I got confused, sorry :("

<Public> Inferno says, "Somerset county."

<Public> Inferno says, "But they specifically said that plane was out of Philadelphia. Anyone heard anything about a hijacking out of Philly?"

Tue Sep 11 17:29:32 2001

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Nope"

<Public> Airlift says, "No, it was a mispeak I'm sure"

<Public> Inferno says, "Okay... They might have screwed up... I think the local news chicky smokes the rock."

<Public> Airlift says, "They have quite well id'd what is missing, and everything else is on the ground.."

<Public> Airlift :)

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah, 'cause if she's right, that's a fifth plane."

<Public> Sheng nods

<Public> Forge says, "to my knowledge the total possible was 8, 4 confirmed (2wtc, 1 pentagon, 1 down in PA), 4 unconfirmed."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane hasn't seen anything on CNN

<Public> Airlift says, "They're saying that they're thinking there were foreign GOVERNMENTS involved in this."

<Public> Sheng says, "Oh god..."

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Who said that?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "there was a plane hijacked out of PGH, I don't know abuot Philly."

<Public> Inferno says, "Wow... That's the first I've heard of 8 possible planes. Oh crap, Matt Lauer? I wouldn't let him interview my ass."

<Public> Airlift says, "PGH?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Pittsburgh"

<Public> Airlift says, "Are you sure Vic?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "They said it on the radio several times"

<Public> Inferno says, "Is that the one that supposedly went down in south PA?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "No, different plane"

<Public> Gridlock says, "Only four were hijacked. All other domestic flights are on the ground now. FAA confirmed it."

<Public> Sheng whews

<Public> Victory Leo says, "They were full of shit on the radio then :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Maybe they can get that mystery plane to slide right down Euclid up in Cleveland and clean up some neighborhood."

<Public> Burnout says, "All other domestic flights are on the ground till at least noon tomorrow I heard."

<Public> Sideswipe says, "A plane hit 80 miles out of Pittsburg."

<Public> Victory Leo has family in Euclid

<Public> Airlift says, "German citizens put flowers at the gates of the US Embassy there.."

<Public> Inferno says, "Not the 'burb, the street."

<Public> Sideswipe says, "All planes are grounded til 6 AM tomorrow, I heard on CNN."

<Public> Sideswipe says, "Might have changed."

<Public> Burnout heard noon at one point or another, but he's channel surfing so he might have misheard.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Noon Wed, so far."

<Public> Inferno says, "Where I saw all those gangbangers all the time."

<Public> Inferno says, "Is something wrong with Katie Couric's mouth? She looks weird."

<Public> Gridlock says, "She always does."

Tue Sep 11 17:39:32 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "No, seriously... It's like her upper lip is numb, or she's wearing a mouthpiece."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "That other building dropped.."

<Public> Inferno says, "They're calling it building 7, but saying three buildings have collapsed. I don't get it."

<Public> Sheng says, "Maybe it's the seventh one that took damage? Or it's position? Or 7 could be the 'officail' name"

<Public> Airlift says, "Another building just went down"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "The building is Building 7 in the Trade District"

<Public> Airlift says, "Oh, you already said so.."

<Public> Airlift says, "It's #7 World Trade Center, that's hte address."

<Public> Airlift says, "The third building to collapse now, not building 3.."

<Public> Dirge says, "This is from previous damage, right?"

<Public> Airlift says, "Yeah"

<Public> Airlift says, "Part of the first tower to fall hit it."

<Public> Dirge nods.

<Public> Gridlock says, "I need video. Stinking Signal Corps."

<Public> Airlift says, "CNN.com si blocked?"

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "Hey all, everyone ok?"

<Public> Inferno says, "Try newsok.com"

<Public> Sheng nods... The people on are... but we're still all tense and, in some cases, mourning

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah, Gridlock, if you can hit http://www.newsok.com they have video of the second impact."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "Really?Thats terrible. I have family in New York myself and were waiting to here from them."

<Public> Gridlock says, "CNN.com doesn't appear to have live feeds."

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "Telnet access is back up"

<Admin> Lightspeed says, "Cool."

<Public> Dirge knows someone whose house is about 2 miles from where that plane went down in PA.

<Public> Gridlock says, "I've seen the canned stuff. I'm looking for live."

<Admin> Lightspeed would go catch up the back log of apps, but eh. Today's not the day.

<Public> Inferno says, "Ohh... Lemme look for somethin' local that might get you passed."

Tue Sep 11 17:49:32 2001

<Admin> Airwolf says, "What caused the access problem, Leo?"

<Admin> Victory Leo says, "dunno"

<Public> Gridlock says, "Thanks. AFKing for a few."

<Public> Sheng nods and was doing the same... My aunt called via pay phone a little while ago.... So now I'm not totally paniced anymore...

<Public> Sheng says, "But I'm just... exhusted... I used all of my energy at school, on the drive home and stressing about my mom and family"

<Public> Inferno says, "Here we go... http://www.channeloklahoma.com"

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "How old you gotta be to donate blood?"

<Public> Inferno says, "Dammit..."

<Public> Sheng says, "What?"

<Public> Inferno says, "My machine locked up."

<Public> Sheng says, "Damn? (pardon my languge)"

<Public> Inferno says, "As in damn this machine, and damn this anal firewall I put on it."

<Public> Inferno says, "Again, if you didn't get it, Gridlock... http://www.channeloklahoma.com Live feeds."

<Public> Sheng hugs and wishes she could do more

<Public> Inferno says, "I think. My box gacked when I tried to fire up the stream."

Tue Sep 11 17:59:32 2001

<Admin> FX sighs...

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "Well I just heard from my family in New York and their alright."

<Public> Sheng says, "Thank god!"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "18, 17 with parental consent I think"

<Public> Sideswipe says, "Hey Leo?"

?<Public> Victory Leo says, "what?"

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "What if your like 16?"

<Public> Sideswipe says, "Where does Sajid live?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "then I guess you're not giving blood."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "NJ"

<Public> Colossus says, "Yeah, we not having a fun time over here in NH.. :("

<Public> Colossus says, "er.. NJ even.. i cant even see anymore to type"

<Public> Sideswipe says, "Think he's okay?"

<Public> Victory Leo thinks he's still unemployed so I can't imagine why he'd be in the city

<Public> Victory Leo has a headache and I think maybe a fever

<Public> Sideswipe says, "Alright, thanks."

<Public> Sheng offers hot tea and some dristain?

<Public> Gridlock says, "Back... someone brought over a TV from the barracks and got it working. Thanks, though, for the feed info. :)"

Tue Sep 11 18:09:32 2001

<Public> Gridlock says, "Going to go watch. Talk to y'all later."

<Public> Airlift says, "Take care Gridlock"

<Public> Airlift says, "And thank you..again."

<Public> Airlift says, "And eternally."

<Public> Sheng says, "Bye... God bless."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "Ironically today's date is 9/11"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "So?"

<Public> Airlift is going to head out now as well..and yeah, we talked about that one already Sludge ;) 911. :(

<Public> Sheng says, "911, Airlift mentioned it"

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Aah"

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Guests> App Sludge says, "Hi Guest, need any help?"

<Public> Inferno says, "I'm out, too. Maybe be back later to rant some more."

Tue Sep 11 18:19:32 2001

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "Heya Shift"

<Public> Redshift waves, just got back from work.

<Public> Redshift says, "What's happening in Afganistan?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Someone's dropping ICBM's."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "We're trying to hit the terrorists who hit us."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Best guess is that its in retailiation to the terrorist attacks of the World Trade Towers & the Pentagon"

<Public> Redshift says, "Is it the US, Scandal?"

Tue Sep 11 18:29:32 2001

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "We don't know, but I'd guess at the least it's a NATO ally."

<Public> Drag Strip waves tiredly. Morning all.

<Public> Sheng says, "Hi"

<Public> Redshift says, "Heya DS"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Bush wouldh ave said something"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "I just woke up and my TV is still not working. Any news in the past 4 hours? I just heard there've been some explosions in Afghanistan."

<Public> Redshift says, "Ayup."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Hey DS, you heard any scuttlebutt about bombing in the middle east? :)"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Not laying in my rack. It was 2317 when my Corporal woke me up and turned on the news, and the barracks had a power outage and I just woke up. It's 0720 now."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Remember that Afghanistan is in the midst of a civil war. That could explain the bombing."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Three buildings at the World Trade Center have fallen.. like 100 causualties at the Pentagon, 266 people on the planes accounted for.... reports say that someone called out from the plane that crash in Pennsylvania, reported that it was multiple persons taking the plane with knives and boxcutters, who herded all the people on the plane to the back (including flight crew)"

<Public> Drag Strip thinks we need to assign a squad of Marines on every plane. Like we guarded the mail in the 1800s.

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Do we have the manpower to do it?"

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Um... No. :)"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "We'll get the manpower to do it. If a bill goes through congress asking for funding for it, do you think anyone's gonna vote against it in light of recent events?"

<Public> Sheng says, "There were less people and less mail back then though"

<Public> Victory Leo would vote against it :P

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Is Bush on TV again.."

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave says, "Has anyone claimed responsibility yet?"

<Public> Drag Strip shrugs. I heard a splinter Palestinian group did.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Nope"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Yes but no one believes them :)"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Just rumor though."

<Public> Stratosphere waves

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Some splinter group did, but chickened out."

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Yo Guest!"

<Guests> Guest says, "hello"

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Need anything?"

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Sorry, with all the planes that are up there, you CAN'T put a groups of people in every place. Especially when there's an entire world's worth of planes out there, too. :)"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "CNN is loving this videophone thing. They keep mentioning it"

<Guests> Guest says, "i'm ok, thanks"

<Public> Redshift says, "Yeah ;)"

<Public> Sheng blinks?

<Public> Sheng says, "Oh, that... Yeah, they do"

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave says, "I see almost every news resource has ruled out the possibility that *Gasp* it could be Americans responsible"

<Public> Sheng says, "AFK for a sec"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "But it sucks, though, Leo"

Tue Sep 11 18:39:32 2001

<Public> Colossus says, "So.. no one knows yet if it is us already bombing them over in Afgan, or if it's internal warfare..?"

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "It could be. Hell, it could be anyone for all we know. But, from what I can gather, it most likely points to the middle east. 20th anniversary of the Camp David Accord. 'Couple weeks ago Bin Ladin's groups threatened to do something bad to us."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Only thing I'm pissed about? They evacuated most of Cleveland. Did I get to go home? Hell no. :P"

<Public> Sheng says, "back"

<Public> Redshift says, "This is even effecting things out here in Gander Newfoundland. There's almost 30 planes sitting at the airport."

<Public> Sheng says, "Woah"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Most of the Canadian flights are shut down according to Global National."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Oh, yeah. This is going to fuck a lot of people up for awhile. Planes won't be getting off the ground until AT LEAST noon tomorrow. Maybe later."

<Public> Redshift says, "Anything that was over the atlantic when the shit hit the fan had to land somewhere. Newfoundland was the clostest point for alot of those planes."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "All Canadian flights are shut down actually."

<Public> Drag Strip finally got through, and there's a lot of European flights up in Fairbanks AK where my mom works at the airport.

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "CN tower and places in Canada have been evacucated also."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Under the circumstances I'd be perfectly willing to accept the inconvenience."

<Public> Sheng agrees

<Public> Stratosphere says, "dude, an explosion just happened in Kabul Afghanistan."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Cruise Missiles."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Someone did it... it might be us.. might not be."

<Public> Colossus says, "They've been happening Strats.."

<Public> Shockwave says, "The CBS is suggesting it might be internal conflict."

<Public> Redshift says, "It started a while ago."

<Public> Sheng says, "Did we fire it though?"

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave kisses his ass goodbye now, so he doesn't regret it later.

<Public> Shockwave doesn't think so, Sheng.

<Public> Shockwave says, "Or at least the CBS doesn't think so."

<Public> Colossus says, "Internal warfare.. we believe so far. If was us we'd go all out and not a few little explosions"

<Public> Sheng guesses so...

Tue Sep 11 18:49:31 2001

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave offered to house some of the people who were stuck due to the cancellation of flights, but wasn't needed. Ah well.

<Public> Shockwave says, "Is there any evidence that bin Laden is involved?"

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge wishs to point out muslims and arabics are different people considering he is half muslim and before anti muslim/arabic talk happens.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Rumors, Shox."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane hasn't heard anything tangible on the news from the Gov't. Just pissed off senators

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal also points out that there was a video of Arab's dancing in the street in celebration over this.

<Public> Shockwave nods and doesn't think the US would start attacking Afghanistan until they have some evidence.

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "Well Dubya is the President so you never know....:)"

<Public> Shockwave nods, "Yeah, but the Arab's dancing in the street wouldn't know who did it anymore than we do."

<Public> Sheng sighs.

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "No, it's a civil war."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "I'm just hoping this is the last of the attacks."

<Public> Sheng NODS

<Public> Shockwave says, "The Taliban say bin Laden doesn't have the capabilities to do something like this. Not that we can trust them or anything."

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave says, "I'm just hoping this doesn't degenerate into WW3."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "It'll happen."

<Public> Shockwave says, "WW3? Nah."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "I don't think so. For all we know this is just some seperate terrorist group."

<Public> Sheng hopes you're wrong Scandal

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "So do I, but I won't be at all surprised. This is major."

<Public> Doubleback says, "Yup, Pres. says the bombings in Kabul weren't ours."

<Public> Sheng blinks and realises she probably should have eaten somthing today

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "Yes but for it to be WW3 their needs to be more countires involved."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "I knew that already, I was guessing maybe a NATO ally acting without contact."

<Public> Sheng says, "BRB"

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave says, "Here's hoping they don't decide, 'Hey, let's blow up the world.' and start launching nukes."

<Public> Redshift says, "There's not enough for WW3. A war is a possibility, but not a /world/ war."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "I don't want to spend the final 5 minutes of my life glowing in the dark."

<Guests> Guest1 has arrived on the MUSH.

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Yo G1!"

<Guests> Guest1 says, "got disconnected, gettnig back on :)"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "The only countries that have nukes are the US, Britain, France, Russia, China, India and Pakistan. We shouldn't have to worry about a nuclear war."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "One nuked is launched and were all gone so I don't think thats gonna happen."

<Public> Redshift thought Isreal had nukes?

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "They're close..."

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave says, "That's the thing. EVERYONE has nukes, because the US has been selling them around for so ficking long like idiots."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Israel? I don't think so. They're probably backed by our nukes, though."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Israel is US friendly from what I understand anyway."

<Public> Redshift says, "Yep."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Er? The US doesn't sell nuclear weapons."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "And Kenya is right, US doesn't sell nukes, Russia maybe..."

Tue Sep 11 18:59:31 2001

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Yeah, Israel is on the US side. That's why Palestine is throwing planes at us. Or, at least people who believe in whatever god the Palestinians believe in. Or something... :)"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Russia might've sold some after the USSR collapsed."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "plus, Israel is sending their elita rescue team to the us."

<Public> Drag Strip heads off to keep his phone line open. Take care, all.

<Public> Redshift says, "You too DS"

<Public> Sheng says, "Back"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "I hope you don't end up having to kick ass, but if you do, give 'em some for me!"

<Public> Maul says, "Bye, DS."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "later Ds. dude, their showing footage of the building dropping from some guy who caught it on film."

<O-Decepticon> Hack says, "Hey Scandal, did Ollin ever tell you about Bombshell's body?"

<O-Decepticon> Maul says, "Where'd Onsy go?"

<O-Decepticon> American McGee's Alice, Scandal says, "yeah, the body is mostly destroyed, but we can get fragments."

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Onsy dropped."

<O-Decepticon> Hack says, "I got time right now if you do :)"

<O-Decepticon> Maul says, "Any idea why? New char?"

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Nope."

<O-Decepticon> American McGee's Alice, Scandal says, "Now? I think not."

<O-Decepticon> Hack says, "You Busy right now then?"

<O-Decepticon> American McGee's Alice, Scandal says, "You -could- say that. Among the things I'm doing is trying to reach friends and family who live around and in manhattan."

<O-Militant> Chikome-Ollin says, "Hola, Layla."

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Onsy is taking a vacation."

<O-Militant> Layla Bastet says, "Hola. Como estas?"

<O-Militant> Chikome-Ollin ums. I'm good?

<O-Decepticon> Hack nods and says "Ok..."

<O-Decepticon> American McGee's Alice, Scandal thought he left the char.

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "He did."

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "I meant he's taking a vacation from MUSHing here."

<O-Decepticon> American McGee's Alice, Scandal says, "Little more then vacation then. =P"

<O-Militant> Chikome-Ollin waves and heads idle for an hour or so.

Tue Sep 11 19:09:31 2001

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Well... it's still a vacation. He'll be back, just likely not as Onsy."

<Admin> Moonracer says, "Is Naomi still in New York?"

<Guests> Guest1 has arrived on the MUSH.

<Guests> Guest says, "Bomb the TErrorists!"

<Guests> Shockwave suggests finding them first.

<Guests> Guest says, "Its that Belatin guy"

<Guests> Shockwave says, "bin Laden?"

<Guests> Shockwave says, "Possibly."

<Guests> App Sludge says, "It hasn't been proved yet though."

<Guests> Guest says, "Anyone in new york?"

<Guests> Guest says, "I take it Drag Strip is gonna be gone a bit longer since he is USMC"

<Guests> Shockwave says, "Possibly."

<Guests> Guest says, "Would any of you guys/girls consider this an act of war if it was found a nation for example Liba was behind it?"

<Guests> Shockwave says, "Of course."

<Guests> Bravado says, "I think it could turn into a war, which frightens me."

Tue Sep 11 19:19:31 2001

<Guests> Guest says, "fear not America would win..... We have the best weps and armed forces in the world."

<Guests> Shockwave says, "Unless it were to go nuclear, of course. Thankfully, that's very unlikely."

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift notes Canada beats the US all the time in war games...

<Guests> Bravado says, "Well, of course. But if a WWIII would break out, it'd probably go nuclear."

<Guests> Guest says, "I'd say that would be THE very last thing any nation would do."

<Guests> App Sludge says, "I think it is HIGHLY unlikely this will turn into WW3."

<Guests> Bravado says, "You never know with these freak terrorists."

<Guests> Shockwave agrees, Sludge.

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa says, "Hey Cass."

<O-Terran> Cassidy says, "Heya."

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "It can only be a war is it's a country behind it. You can't technically have a war with a terrorist group."

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "You can have a big ol' brawl, but not really a war."

<Guests> Bravado says, "Bigass battle, then."

<Guests> App Sludge says, "We really beat the Americans in war games?"

<Guests> Shockwave nods to Sludge, "Yes, but I don't know if that takes into accounts the sheer numbers they have."

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Yep. Canadian soldiers are, on the average, better trained than US ones,. We just have less soldiers, and worse weapons."

<Guests> App Sludge says, "I don't think so."

<Guests> App Sludge says, "Don't they outnumber us like 5 to 1?"

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Probaly more ;) But we're better."

<O-Militant> Tatyana's nerves are completely shot.

<O-Militant> Layla Bastet hugs.

Tue Sep 11 19:29:31 2001

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Heyas."

<Public> Sheng SNUGS

<Public> Redshift says, "Heya HS"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Hey guys. Do we have anyone here in New York or Washington DC?"

<O-Militant> Tatyana goes to feed her dogs, and then might even try writing to see if panic is a good creativity inspiring tool ;>

<O-Militant> Tatyana afk

<Public> Me Swoop is curious of Sajid.

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Sajid?"

<Guests> Guest says, "NOt really seeing how at least 60 percent of American Troops are not in america at the time."

<Public> Sheng blinks?

<Public> Moonracer says, "Sajid is in New York- I think..."

<Public> Me Swoop says, "Essy?"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike eeks. Hrm. Where is Brent right now on his Road Trip?

<Public> Moonracer says, "Leo? Do you know if he's okay?"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike hmms.

<Public> Redshift says, "Heya MC"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Hey. :)"

<Public> Sheng snugs. Hi

Dinobot(#455)@BWTMet pages: vl= Any idea if Essi is still in the new york area?

<Public> Victory Leo says, "He lives in NJ. AFAIK he's still unemployed so he'd have no reason to be in the city."

> From BWTMet <

You paged Dinobot with "NJ".

> Done <---

<Public> Me Swoop nods.

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Good. Does anyone know where BRent's Road Trip has him right now? I know its a slim chance, but still."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "He's home"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike nods. And knew it was pretty much at its end by now.

<Public> Vortex sighs as he wakes up....was hoping it was a dream.

<Public> Moonracer says, "Thank you Leo."

<Public> Sheng says, "I don't blame you"

Dinobot(#455)@BWTMet pages: Okies.. just wondering if he was anywhere near all of that. Knew he was in New York before but lost track of him since BWTF closed.

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Yeah, I keep wishing it were a War of the Worlds broadcast."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike couldn't believe it either. I was home this mornign witha sinus headache, when my mom called to tell me what was going on. I turned on the TV and just sat there for about 10 minutes..

<Public> Bravado stared at it for most of school today

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "We still had school, but we all just kinda sat there..."

<Public> Victory Leo watched the news until I was an hour late for work, then as I got into the city they announced they were evacuating all the federal buildings and crap, so I turned around and came home :P

Tue Sep 11 19:39:31 2001

<Public> Sheng got called by her dad and told what happened... I drove home in the rain worrying about my family... I couldn't really believe it

<Public> Victory Leo is just... tired

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane called in today. I wonder if they evacuated.

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap cancelled all his classes today. My students needed to be somewhere else besides listening to me lecture.

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike nods. Most Colleges cancelled.

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Is your family OK Sheng?"

<Public> Sheng is tired IRL as well...

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Not ours. My department actually wanted me to teach. I kind of got in trouble for cancelling."

<Public> Sheng says, "Yeah... we got a call from them a while ago."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "My brain hurts. I can't go anywhere without hearing about this. I want to turn it all off."

<Public> Shockwave says, "Why not do so, Leo?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Whatcha teach, Madcap?"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Setup a temp channel for discussions on the subject. Thats what another MUSH I'm on did, and it avoids spam."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "BWTMet did that too"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike nods. He just got M3 to do it.

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "You guys need blood really badly huh?"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Theres already a shortage of blood before this incident. Now they need it more then ever."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike plans to bug his father (Who is O+) to do it too.

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge says, "I'm gonna go try and donate tommorow."

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge is O-

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "They won't take my blood. Too many tattoos. I went and tried."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "At least you tried Madcap."

<Public> Hack says, "Hey Madcap what subject do you teach?"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Communication Theory, Screenwriting, and Studio Production."

<Public> Sheng has to wait until she shakes off this cold to donate blood... Ummm, how long AFTER having a chest cold do yu have to wait before giving blood?

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "I also teach a leadership development class, but not today"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Mostly I pretend to work on my dissertation. :)"

<Public> Hack nods his head. Which College do you teach at?

<Public> One Badmamajama Sludge heads out, "Bye all"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Washington State"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Bye Sludge."

<Public> Hack says, "Wow, my Father Graduated from Washington State :)"

<Public> Do Not Taunt Happy Fun Madcap says, "Cool. :)"

Tue Sep 11 19:49:31 2001

<Public> Airlift says, "That was cool...Congress singing God Bless America on the steps of the capital building."

<Public> Sheng nods

<Public> Moonracer says, "And a moment of silence."

<Public> Airlift nods

<Public> Redshift says, "Heya Rob"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Hola. Anyone know why Afganistan got bombed and by who?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "North Afganistan Rebels took responsibility"

<Public> Redshift says, "It's a civil war. They bombed themselves, it wasn't the US."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Trying to get TV time."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike nods.

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Dayum, what else can they do?>"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Turn Ossama Bin ladin over, or into dirt."

<Public> Sheng does not know... Wow

<Public> Rob Kennedy may be called insane for this but, "I was kinda hoping for a World War."

<Public> Sheng says, "Why?"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "War can clense, no doubt about that."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "I'm not sure, as it seems to me, it would be a better way out of my problems than suicide."

<Public> Sheng says, "True"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "I think a worldwide massacre of who is behind htis is more like it. The UN will have a witch hunt over who did this, and it will end with someone dead."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "I mean it basicly signing my own death warrent as I'd go for the Air forces"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Ehhh, which airforce do you fly for again?"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "I suck that much as Flight Sims I'd definitly get shot down"

<Public> Sheng hopes it isn't a witch hunt!

<Public> Sheng says, "Oh geez..."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Canada Scan ;)"

Tue Sep 11 19:59:30 2001

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Ahh, you may well die then. =P"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Thats ok. It happens :)"

Tue Sep 11 20:09:31 2001

<Public> Vortex says, "Uhhh if you know him, I don't, just passing on a message, Screamer@Continuum lost his Uncle, so if you know him, drop him a condolance."

<Public> Moonracer says, "A friend of mine from TinyTim lost her uncle and her cousin. She got to explain it to her six year old."

<Public> Vortex's cousin was visiting the WTC when it happened, just got a call from him a little while back saying he was okay.

<Public> Sheng WHEWS

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "There's too much loss."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Thank goodness for your cousin, Vortex."

<Public> Rob Kennedy straps on a flight helmet.

<Public> Moonracer says, "much too much. :("

<Public> Acid Jazz says, "As long as they don't take out the National Basilica, I'm ok."

<Public> Redshift munches on some chips.

<Public> Rob Kennedy ho hums

<Public> Redshift says, "Rob, if Canada goes to war I'll be put into the Air force too."

<Public> Redshift says, "I'm above all of you on enlistment, 'cause of my 2 weeks prior service. They told me that when I left."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "we could get matching tattos and you can be Ace, and I'll be Deuce, and and, we'll blow stuff up until I get hit then you'll avenge my death! 8)"

<Public> Moonracer took the ASFAB.

<Public> Sheng hugs!!

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "They'll make a movie out of it!"

<Public> Redshift says, "At least id you die, your family gets double a years salary outta it ;)"

<Public> Moonracer knows she's got a brain, and would possibly be on any draft list. Never got the scores- but still.

<Public> Acid Jazz won't get drafted if the US goes into draft mode. Parents both have prior service and would be called up before me, leaving me as the end of the line.

<Public> Victory Leo laughs at Rob

<Public> Burnout wouldn't get drafted either, current policy would keep him out.

<Public> Hack says, "IF your Parents did their 7 years they won't most likely be called before you..."

<Public> Rob Kennedy will strafe Rakshas house before he goes overseas too :)

<Public> Redshift says, "Muwaha!"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike cackles.

<Public> Acid Jazz says, "Father's retired with 2nd-code Top Secret clearance. The B-1s couldn't move full scale without him. Mom ran personell for the entirety of SAC. They were both told when they left that they'd be called if needed."

<Public> Sheng says, "You are all WEIRD people;)"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Really? ;)"

<Public> Redshift was told I'd be called if needed.

Tue Sep 11 20:19:31 2001

<Public> Rob Kennedy calls the Air Force, "If I join with you, will I get ta kill tha' badguys." "well you'd need to inlist to join..." "The All Mighty says stop changin' tha subject and answer tha fookin' question"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Procyon@M3 has lost three close friends. Give him your condolences if you can."

<Public> Redshift says, "Newfies always end up no the front lines anyway."

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "Yeah, we're cannon fodder"

<Public> Hack says, "Oh well thats different then Jazz"

<Public> Redshift says, "All the people I met at boot camp thought very highly of newfies :)"

<Public> Redshift says, "And respct us because in the past wars, Newfies rocked."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "The ones who lived, eh?"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "My Great Grandfather was a blue patie"

<Public> Sheng snugs

<Public> Redshift says, "Most of 'em died, but they died fighting."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Anyone want pictures of this? My friends are at SVA and are sending digital pictures. This is sickening..."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Pawns for governments who are too busy playing their games to care about what's best for their people."

<Public> Acid Jazz says, "SVA?"

<Public> Rob Kennedy says, "I do Bee"

<Public> Sheng blinks?

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Hmm, Bush's campaign funded by weapon manufactures..."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Alright, just page me with your email address."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Alright, sent..."

Tue Sep 11 20:29:31 2001

<Public> Earthscorch says, "WE have any players in New York?"

<Public> Bumblebee is in NJ.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Closer than you'd care to be, I bet..."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "My friend is in EMT and is now at NY right... He left school early. He's on standby and will be out till Thursday."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "He's pulling 18 hour shifts for the next 3 days."

<Public> Acid Jazz really hopes classes are cancelled again tomorrow. They won't be worth much.

<Public> Bumblebee waves out... Phone calls to make.

<Public> Sheng nods

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane has to go into work tomorrow, for whatever good it is.

<Public> Redshift doesn't have work tomorrow, so I get to sit on my butt and be lazy all day.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Well, life must go on. WHatever happens next is out of most of our hands..."

<Public> Sheng nods

<Public> Sheng seems to be nodding alot

<Public> Redshift nods.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "It's hard to be eloquent in such circumstances. I've been saying, 'I bet,' all day. :P"

<Public> Sheng is tired from worrying so much... and I keep thinking of 'what if they hadn't transfered... would I have deaths to mourn now?

<Public> Acid Jazz is just glad he didn't choose today to take a tour of the Pentagon.

<Public> Moonracer hugs. Don't think of it. Just be happy that they are alive.

<Public> Earthscorch has a cousin in the Navy. Wouldn't want to be him right now.

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing has a father in FDNY.

<Public> Sheng has long considered joing the navy, but can't becasue fo my knee...

<Public> Bumblebee has friends in NYC, just blocks away... Most of them are EMTs, cops, firefighters, first aid...

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Oh man..."

<Public> Ravage waves. :/

<Public> Ravage says, "Crap. :/"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Heya, Ravage."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Oh Bee.... Have you heard anything from them?"

<Public> Sheng says, "Shit... *hugs bee*"

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Just one... He claims all is as good as it gets."

<Public> Redshift says, "They're setting up the military base here to house lots of extra men, being brought in to handle the 30+ planes that are grounded at the airport."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Shit, Car bombing in Newark..."

<Public> Moonracer hugs.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "+p :hmmms at Bee?"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "they're going to have to set up places to shelter some of those stranded people.."

<Public> Sheng knows

<Public> Ravage says, "There's soot all over everything, on the news. It's like demented snow..."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "I saw the smoke from my school."

<Public> Redshift says, "There's lots of planes here in Gander, and no where to put these people."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "The frickin skyline has a hole in it."

Tue Sep 11 20:39:30 2001

<Public> Ravage says, "A Korean plane was escorted right over my house to land at the airport. Surreal."

<Public> Earthscorch knows someone in a mental institute in New York. She even got a collect call through after it happened.

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "Townsend Harris, on the Queens College campus."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "My friends go to SVA."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "SVA?"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Isn't Motormaster in New York?"

<Public> Bumblebee says, "School of Visual Arts"

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "God, the news just said as many as 200 firefighters are dead..."

<Public> Moonracer says, "He should be in North Carolina for School though."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "I'"

<Public> Redshift says, "Moto was online a little while ago."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "3 blocks away from the Towers."

<Public> Moonracer nods to Blitzwing.

<Public> Trigger says, "Yeah, they were up in one of the towers fighting the fire there when the second plane hit."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "I've heard of that, Bee."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "Lots of people died when those buildings collapsed."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "I am so happy I am not going there.... I wanted to go there, but I need to finish HS first."

<Public> Moonracer wanted to work on broadway.

<Public> Redshift says, "It was wuite a while between the crashes, and the collapse. People had time to start heading for the ground."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Did everyone get the pics they wanted?"

<Public> Trigger noddle, "A lot of people did get out."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "15 minutes between crashes."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane can't recall off the top of his head between how long it took those suckers to crash.

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "Whoever planned it knew what they were doing."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "What kind of people would do an attack like this? The pentagon I can understand (though not endorse of course), but this was a civilian place... At least we can ay we were around when this happened, because this will be in the history books..."

<Public> Trigger says, "Someone on the news was on the 90th floor when the first one hit and got out."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "THey were 19 minutes apart, I think."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Around 15 minutes between the towers, then about an huor later."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "The first crash at the owers got the media to focus in. They were saddistically clever to wait till it was now on the media to crash it again"

<Public> Moonracer says, "for the pentagon one."

<Public> Acid Jazz says, "Economic center, Earthscorch. Anyone who hates capitalism would see the WTC as a much bigger prize than the pentagon or white house."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "The first one probably looked like an accident."

<Public> Redshift says, "Yeah."

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "The towers are a symbol of our power and wealth. THey took out the heart of the financial district with that strike."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Bee, they were sadistic enough to get the EMTs and Firemen there before they did the second one.:("

<Public> Redshift says, "the 1st hit looked like it /could/ have been a freak accidnet, then there was a 2nd hit to scare the sh*t outta everybody."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "It's just insane..."

<Public> Sheng nods...

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Talk about throwing a rock in a hornet's nest, though... This is going to get ugly..."

<Public> Ravage gaped at the shot of the other plane slamming into the other tower. What the people in the building and the plane (not the hyjackers) must have been thinking in those final moments...

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "This is so much worse than Pearl Harbor. And we're going to strike back HARD."

<Public> Sheng said it before... but the fact still stands... This is a day that will live in infamy... Pearl Harbor again... *shudder* What's strange is my dad had said yesterday that he hoped a war would never happen while my brother and I were alive...

Tue Sep 11 20:49:31 2001

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing says, "My mother said the same thing. Unfortunately, we're going to war. We're AT war."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "I hope it's a terrorist group and not a country, so we can avoid war..."

<Public> Sheng says, "Me too"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "We're just waiting for the official decree from Bush"

<Public> Bumblebee says, "anyone see the first episode of the Lone Gunmen? This reminds me of it..."

<Public> Bumblebee is not making a joke. "The plane was supposed to get the Towers... It is insaley parallel."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Maybe the terrorists thought it was a good idea..."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Bush is on"

<Public> Redshift says, "Yep."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Shit, one of my friends' dad worked there..."

<Public> Sheng HUGS

<Public> Moonracer says, "Friends of mine are still waiting for word, Bee. I understand."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "He was laid off this summer though... Thankfully.. God might have blessed him."

<Public> Burnout says, "Well that was short."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "That is all he has to say?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Short and sweet"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "What could he have to say? It's still too early."

<Public> Burnout says, "Probably for the people that were at work during his daytime one."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Which can be a good thing. Short, sweet, to the point. And allows people to go back to picking up the pieces."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike nods. He got to the point, and so on. No point to drag things out.

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Afghanistan <sp?> is being bombed, still?"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "I definately wouldn't want to be president right now. he's going to have to make some tough choices in the near future, I expect."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Colin Powell too."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike nods. Bush is finally going to be put to the test. How he handles this determines if he gets relelected or not.

<Public> Moonracer says, "Basically he can't say anything definate right now, they're still doing some investigating. It's too early- he's mostly on there for the moral support."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Chaney <sp?> must be in bad shape with his heart."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike idles for food.

Tue Sep 11 20:59:30 2001

<Public> Master Sergeant Blitzwing waves out to see what's going on and take care of some things...

<Public> Bumblebee says, "Lakehurst is really active tonight."

<Public> Bumblebee says, "I am beginning to know how ity felt like to be in Independence Day..."

<Public> Ravage says, "...This looks like WWIII...."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "No, when ICBM's are streaking over the midwest, that's WW3"

<Public> Sheng shudders

<Public> Redshift says, "It can't be a war. There's no country to fight."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Yet."

<Public> Bumblebee has to go now... He can't standit... Most of his friends are EMTs amd being transferred to NYC

<Public> Ravage says, "When Bush said he'd strike back at the country harboring the terrorists, there is now a country to fight...And a war."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "It's not a world war until multiple countries get involved on both sides."

<Public> Redshift says, "My dad is going back to work... Military base is on alert, and need extra people on duty."

<Public> Redshift nods to Leo.

<Public> Victory Leo says, "And if they find the terrorists and said country extradites them, it's not a war at all."

<Public> Ravage says, "I'll be pleased."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Then its public execution"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Painfully so."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "One would hope."

<Public> Redshift doesn't want to be put back in a uniform.

<Public> Airwolf says, "That might be why Bush phrased it the way he did. To pressure the country."

<Public> Sheng nods... I hope it doesn't come to war

<Public> Redshift says, "Once the US has a target to fire at, it wont last very long."

<Public> Sheng says, "True."

<Public> Ravage says, "Who bombed Afganistan? (which I can't spell)"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Northern Rebels."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Afganistan ones"

<Public> Redshift says, "/Afganistan/ bombed Afganistan. Civil war."

<Public> Sheng says, "I heard civil war"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "The worst part about all of this is that whoever did this has no fear. They won't fear using heavy weapons if they have them..."

Tue Sep 11 21:09:30 2001

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "It's Afghanistan, by the way."

<Public> Redshift says, "Thank you, Kenya."

<Admin> Lightspeed waves out.

Tue Sep 11 21:19:31 2001

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Heya Guest"

<Guests> Guest says, "Heya Redshift"

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Need anything?"

<Guests> Guest says, "Nope, everything is cool."

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Aright."

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave ponders RP.

Tue Sep 11 21:29:30 2001

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "If it'll serve as a distraction, I'm interested."

<O-Decepticon> Burnout is up for RP since the news is just repeating itself.

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave says, "What to do..."

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Sit around and plot evil."

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "Let's merge and deep throat a giant rocket."

<O-Decepticon> Burnout says, "Well duh Shocks, what else would a good Decepticon do."

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave says, "Sounds good Hook, we can become rich with a web page."

<O-Decepticon> Her Divine Martini Mixer, Mega(?) Octane sits around in wavering numbness and disbelief.

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Do evil. Plotting evil and doing evil are two different things."

<O-Decepticon> Hook nods.

<O-Decepticon> Burnout says, "Planning is one stage of doing though. Technically they could be argued to be two sides of the same coin so techincally the same."

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Not really, 'cause most of the time we plan, but never actually get around to doing it. Plus, there's all the times we do something without planning it."

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Unless you're a moron, and just do evil without a plan. Then it's a two-headed coin."

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave says, "How about we commit evil?"

<O-Decepticon> Burnout does have this nice little size 1 bomb he's itching to use.

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "How about we commit good for this one day?"

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave eyes Hook.

<O-Decepticon> Hook will remain quiet.

<O-Decepticon> Earthscorch says, "I want to commit good!"

<O-Decepticon> Burnout says, "Yeah, let's commit good and free Earth from the oppresive influence of the Autobots."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Yay!"

<O-Decepticon> Victory Leo says, "Ok Raksha"

Tue Sep 11 21:39:30 2001

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "That kind of good is just evil, only thinly disguised. Not that there's anything wrong with that."

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "We can give milk to the people of earth. Only it'll be poisoned with acid."

<O-Decepticon> Burnout says, "What is and isn't evil is all a matter of perception. What I stated before I'd see as evil, but Burnout wouldn't."

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Yes, well, Burnout is an idiot."

<O-Decepticon> Earthscorch is actually Raksha in disguise. Had you fooled didn't I?

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "ICly :-)"

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave flees from Scorch.

<O-Decepticon> Burnout says, "Not really, he's not that far of Shocks Int wise."

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave ICly is an idiot if he thinks slavery and conquering is 'good'.

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave is a genius.

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave says, "That is, if my intelligence stat applied to anything..."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike returns.

<Public> Sheng says, "Heyo"

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "So... back on topic."

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "Pitiful 93 int."

<Public> J-Turn says, "Donno if anyone had heard or commented: They've managed to rescue 2 folks from the rubble of the WTC. They've also recived a cell phone call from someone trapped in the rubble."

<O-Decepticon> Burnout listens to the insecticons chirp outside Galv's window as talk of RP suddenly dies off.

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie can imagine what that phone call is like... :)

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave is still up for it if others are.

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Get me the F**K Out of here damnit! ;)"

<Guests> Guest1 has arrived on the MUSH.

<Public> Sheng shudders

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike apologizes. He couldn't resist.

<O-Decepticon> Burnout woho's as the windows shell explorer crashes, time for a reboot.

<Public> Sheng says, "It's okay"

<Public> Moonracer says, "That's a miracle phone call."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie was thinking something else, but whatever. :)

<Public> Snarl says, "Where did you hear that?"

Tue Sep 11 21:49:30 2001

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Heya G1"

<Public> J-Turn says, "Hear what? About the rescues?"

<Public> Snarl says, "Yeah"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "In the US, at least, every channel around has new coverage."

<Public> Snarl is careful about rumors and facts. :)

<Public> Sheng NODS...

<Public> J-Turn says, "That was information passed along from the ABC news feed. I caught it on the radio."

<Public> Snarl says, "K"

<Public> Moonracer hasn't heard anything about the people being found.

<Public> Sheng listens hopefully

<Public> Ravage says, "People were found?"

<Public> J-Turn says, "If you're watching the TV feeds, you can see folks walking back, in larger numbers... Talking about that 911 cell phone call now on ABC."

<Public> Doubleback says, "Wow, it's almost eerie to go outside and not see the usual at least 3 or 4 airplanes in the evening sky."

<Public> Moonracer says, "That's a 911 phone call from the hijacking, J-Turn. One of the people on the plane locked herself in the bathroom, and called 911."

<Public> Sheng blinks... WOW

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane nods to DB. It was creepy walking outside.. like none of the usual background noise...

<Public> Sheng says, "That IS weird"

<Public> Snarl says, "What is weird Sheng?"

<Public> Sheng says, "N airplane sounds... I'm so used to it..."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme thinks it'll be weird looking at the New York skyline and not seeing the twin towers.

<Public> J-Turn shakes his head, "No, he commented it was from a Philidelpha Area Code, but was coming from a tower down at the Marion Hotel (I think that's the name of the hotel.) Which is within blocks of ground zero.

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Downtown Cleveland was deserted at 4:40 this afternoon. Very few cars, very few people walking. Only thing that was actually running were the RTA busses."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrikenods. Right now....I'd freak should I hear/see an airplane.

<Admin> Omega Supreme says, "Has anyone got ahold of Naomi? Does she still live in NY?"

<Public> Doubleback lives somewhere between 5 - 10 miles north of D/FW airport. The sky is always filled with airplanes. Of course, earlier when I walked my dog outside after the three crashes, it was eerie seeing a plane fly overhead.

<Admin> Chikome-Ollin says, "I haven't heard."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Yeah, they cleared three planes with medical supplies and blood to take off for NYC."

<Public> Sheng has heard a few smaller air planes fly by...

<Admin> Moonracer says, "Airwolf has been trying to get ahold of her."

<Admin> Moonracer says, "She's going to Columbia, so she is probably fine...."

<Public> Snarl says, "A friend of mine in NY i was talking to on the net was freaked out everytime she heard the military planes above"

<Public> Doubleback says, "This was before that. About 9:30 or 10 am."

<Public> Snarl says, "Military and government planes are still in the air Sheng"

<Public> Sheng knows... But I'm not near where I'd expect the planes to be.

<Public> Snarl says, "Maybe gathering supplies and then flying them to the disaster zones"

<Admin> Airwolf has been trying, but has gotten nothing but a busy signal all day. Phone are probably overloaded.

<Public> Sheng says, "Maybe... But I hear the military jets aobut once a month if that... There's been three tonight... it's as freaky as not hearing the big jets"

<Public> J-Turn says, "I think there was 1 flight from Kansas City today. We keep a group of Emergency Response, who are trained for working in disasters for finding survivors. They left KC for NYC today, probably mid-afternoon."

Tue Sep 11 21:59:30 2001

<Admin> Tatyana says, "they were shut down, AW"

<Admin> Tatyana says, "phones, that is"

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Heya Scraps"

<Public> Acid Jazz waves out..gotta comfort the girlfriend..her dad's on the short list (ie first shipped out if/when we go to war on this thing).

<O-Decepticon> TV's Frank, Scrapper waves.

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "Let's merge."

<Public> Sheng nods and hugs

<Public> Acid Jazz says, "See you gentlemen and ladies later."

<Public> Sheng nods

<Public> Airlift says, "The entire bomb squad is dead."

<Public> Redshift says, "Seeya Jazz."

<Admin> Tatyana doesn't know how long ago that was said :> Phones have been mostly shutdown in 'major' areas.

<Public> Sheng BLINKS?

<Admin> Airwolf isn't surprised.

<Public> Snarl says, "They must have been climbing up when it collapsed to see if there was a bomb"

<Admin> Moonracer says, "It took me a couple of tries to get through to Maine."

<Public> Airlift says, "80+ police officers, 200+ firemen."

<Public> Snarl thinks most of the victims will be does on floors above 81st and the rescue poeple who were there when it collapsed. Seems the others were almost all evacuated

<Public> Redshift says, "I wonder if this is done for now, or will 'they' be trying more terrorist type stuff in the next few days? Already so many people have died, nobody wants to see it get worse."

<Public> Airlift says, "as high as the 91st floor got out..entire offices worth.."

<Public> Snarl nods, "Right."

<Admin> Tatyana says, "now that 'snookems' checked in, I think I can safely go to sleep."

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Public> Airlift says, "Redshift, it's 99% certain this was Ben Ladin...and also 99% certain we're about to invade Afghanistan and any other country that tries to protect him."

<Guests> Always helpful Redshift says, "Heya Guest"

<Guests> Guest says, "Hello"

Jesse> <OOC> John makes some obligatory politically incorrect comment about them needing to shut the phones down whenever he walks outside without his shirt.

<Public> Ravage asks a stupid question. How high were the world trade center towers?

<Public> Snarl says, "The question is, if they will try to protect him or not"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "And people jumping."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Like hell."

<Public> Snarl says, "110 floors i think"

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana grins

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Yup. Each 110."

<Public> Scrapper doubts Osama's same safe anywhere, now.

<Public> Snarl Tries to get some rest now, cya

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana says, "are you gonna be around tomorrow, providing the world doesn't end and there aren't more attacks? I want to have people around when I bring Kelly back"

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says we just blow the entire Middle East off the face of the planet. Make it a nice, shiny bowl of sandglass. Kill several birds with one swift slap to the ass.

Jesse> <OOC> Jesse says, "Of course"

<Public> Scrapper waves.

<O-Decepticon> Shockwave says, "Go kill Omega Supreme."

Jesse> <OOC> Cee De La Rosa will try to be. Depends on my mood or what else might be going on.

Jesse> <OOC> Jesse says, "we need to figure out what we did on our date too :)"

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Yeah. We'll cheer ya on from a safe distance."

<Public> Snarl thinks that poeple who say that Dixie scare the shit out of me

<Public> Earthscorch says, "That's the same mentality that caused whoever to do this to us."

<OOC> John says, "My mood is just tired :P"

<O-Decepticon> Burnout says, "Yeah, like from Trypticon via radio."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie oogies and boogies at Snarl, scaring him. :)

<Public> Snarl goes now

<Public> Redshift says, "You can't reduce the value of human lives to zero."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Opinion, my son."

<Public> Burnout says, "Apparently some can Redshift."

Jesse> <OOC> Cee De La Rosa says, "My mood is shaky. I heard everything on the radio from the beginning. I still can't help but feel like it's an elaborate 'War of the Worlds'."

<Public> Redshift says, "Wel, that's true Dixie."

<Public> Poopdeck is already sick of this going to war bullshit. I heard the prex as did most of you, I'm sure, he never said war and he left a lot of room for the US to work in before going to war. Good God, this isn't 1941, it's a terrorist act, a cowardly, cockroach type who move around constantly and don't live in any one place, there's no one to go to war with and I really wish people would quit suggesting we do so with whatever phantom culprit the nightly news puts up before them.

<Public> Scrapper nods. Guy came into the store today, snarling about how we should go to war. I asked him against who.

<Public> Airlift says, "Any nation that hides terrorists."

<Public> Redshift says, "I want to see justice, but not bloodshed."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Religion. We should have a war against religion. That's the problem. People believe in shit too much."

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana says, "lots and lots of sex, Jesse! ;P And movies. And romantic dinner. Heh. Hmm, what else? :P"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Poopdeck, @mail me your email, so I can send you that recipe."

Jesse> <OOC> Cee De La Rosa says, "Don't forget the cheap wine."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Justice, but not bloodshed. That's interesting, Redshift. How do you think we should bring whoever it is to justice?"

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana nods to both, btw: I'm exhausted, and scared...But Tarkin@swse signed on and made me feel better.

<Public> Burnout says, "Dixie the problem isn't that they believe in shit too much, it's that they're hypocritcial about what they believe in."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Oooo! Yes ma'am!"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Naw, just too many stupid people and too much technology. Bad mix."

Tue Sep 11 22:09:30 2001

<Public> Redshift says, "I don't know, Dixie."

<Public> Scrapper says, "The only problem with religion, of course, is that it has to involve people."

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana also still insists it feels like a Die Hard movie.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "The last WTC bombers got life in prison. Sounds good to me for those who assisted in this. The hijackers themselves already got their death sentence. For God's sake, don't give these people martyrs. Look at Mandella, and he was 'only' imprisoned."

Jesse> <OOC> Cee De La Rosa says, "That's exactly it. It feels unreal."

<Public> Sheng sighs and still keeps waiting to wake up...

<Public> Earthscorch says, "yeah, this is surreal... Like a movie or something..."

<Public> Sheng nods...

<Public> Earthscorch says, "I just hope that this isn't the prelude to something worse."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie doesn't agree with the life in prison thing. If it's out in the middle of the desert chained to a cactus, then maybe. But I can't justify life in prison for destroying two national landmarks and killing a whole shitload of people.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Take him to the tree of woe! Crucify him!"

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie could deal with a crucifiction.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "History has proven that that'll make a martyr of you for sure, thoug."

<Public> Sheng sighs and waves off for the night... I'm falling asleep at teh keyboard...

<Public> Redshift says, "G'night Sheng! Sleep well."

<Public> Earthscorch waves!

<Public> Sheng says, "So shoot the bastards. (pardon my lanuge)"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "If anything deserves a death sentence, it's this..."

<Public> Sheng says, "Stay safe everybody."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Death is too quick."

<Public> Poopdeck was going to offer this up before I lost my dial-up connection: And don't give me 'different causes and circumstances.' If there's one thing the world needs to learn on a large scale, it's that people don't see themselves as evil, they see themselves as heroes. Evil's only put on people from the outside. Falling Down has the perfect example of this, you watch that and think how that lone gunman felt during that day. It's the same situation everywhere. You can't really stop this stuff until you see that everyone thinks they're in the right sometimes, and that to truly get any change going on, you've got to convince them without punching them in the face.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Death is eternal."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "But a crime must be punished."

(New BB message (1/11) posted to 'Public' by FX: Today's Events)

<Public> Redshift says, "Amen, FX."

Tue Sep 11 22:19:29 2001

<Public> Sheng nods and hugs.

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Message: 1/11 Posted Author

Today's Events Tue Sep 11 FX

My name is Bryan Gawron most of you know me as FX here. However there is a person behind the role I play here, that's me. In review of today's events I am quite upset. I feel ill about what has happened today with the victims of the terrorist attacks today on the Twin Towers in NYC, The Pentagon, and the innocent passengers on the 4 airlines that were used as tools in this whole evil and terrible event. This will be forever remembered in the lives of the people that lived through it, and those that have watched it. This will be something written down in the history books for our children, and children's children. A story that will join the history of our great nation. This is but a mear dent in our country, but one that will make our pride for this great nation stronger. We cannot forget what today has brought us, only look on to the next and the next after that. We can do things to help out the situation, even if you do not live down the street, but many streets. Whatever faith you believe in, or religion you follow, or even if you don't. I urge you to say a prayer for the lives that were lost today and for the ones that we may find alive. If you can, try and give blood, or a donation to the Red Corss so we can help out in any way possible. We are a proud people of this nation and we have mixed people on this great MUSH from all over the place, Canada, Australia, the UK... If we can all work together in harmony here why can't the world. We're just a small group, but we are all human. Please give something if you can, if you can't a wise friend of mine said "make brownies for those who can", any bit will help. Please say a word to whatever you believe in tonight for the men and women lost in the destruction, and the hundreds who were lost while trying to save people, and who are still trying to save people. Amen. -Bryan Jason Gawron

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Reserved Char Tue Sep 11 The @NEWPASSWORDER <NP>

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<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike nods. Ditto.

<Public> Hyper-Boost Soundwave says, "Amen."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "See my last statement about no martyrs. These guys, whoever helped pull this off that isn't already dead, are gonna be held up within their organization as saints and holy crusaders who gave their life for the cause. We don't put those who aid murderers to death, last I checked, so why do it here? It doesn't make sense, except from the perspective of a frothing mad electoriate screaming for blood. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd like to think I'm above that."

<Public> Sheng says, "And all of you... stay safe... every life is precious"

<Public> Poopdeck shuts up now and reads what FX had to say. :)

<Public> Earthscorch says, "They plotted this horrible act... They're as responsible as those who physically enacted the plan."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Someone out there is in cahoots with them."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie nods.

Jesse> <OOC> Tatyana says, "okay. @mails sent that I needed to send. So, g'night."

<Public> Redshift says, "What is it about humans that can't let us all live peacefully? *sigh*"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "ANd like a bad child they must be impressed that this sort of behavior is unacceptable."

Jesse> Tatyana has disconnected.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Fine, prove it and I'm in. I'm just reminding people there's laws in place to govern this sort of thing. Throwing tanks at it is throwing those laws out the window."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "By swift and lethal force, if necessary."

<Public> Earthscorch nods. This was a blatent act of punishing civilians because somoene didn't like our government. And I'm all for it being proven. I don't want anyone to jump the gun here.

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie hrms... Sorry, Poopdeck, it's called war. It's been going on for centuries. For land, for religion. Law is created for "normal" time. This is not such a time, in my most humble of opinions.

<Public> Earthscorch says, "But the people responsible MUST be found, or they'll doubtless commit other acts."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman meeps. Hello.

<Public> Redshift says, "Heya fish dude!"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "We aren't at war, nor if luck holds, will we be."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Hello Shiftred :)"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "And I fell we should stick with our standard laws even in the darkest of times."

<Public> Redshift says, "How you holding up in the face of this disaster?"

<Public> Ravage says, "Will somebody be nailed for crimes against humanity?"

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman shrugs to Earthscorch.. martial law is so much more fun? :)

<Public> Earthscorch says, "I personally just believ in the death sentence, this incident aside."

<Public> Earthscorch trues, but I doubt anyone is in the mood for fun...

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Has anyone even considered that this might not have been a terrorist group from some middle-eastern country?"

<Public> Redshift says, "Nobody on TV."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "There are many little 'militias' and that that think that the Government is evil within US Borders :)"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "I'm hoping it's not someone involved witht he Chinese. They scare me and Bush has been riling them up.."

<Public> Earthscorch trues. That would be ideal for it to be some of them. We could avoid war and clean out some internal trash at the same time.

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "The military riled the Chinese up."

<Public> Inferno says, "The Chinese rile themselves up."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Somebody did. I just like blaming stuff on Bush. :)"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Well, either way."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "The Chinese brought it on."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "The Chinese are just riled. :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "We've been kissing Chinese butt since the Truman administration."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman shrugs

<Public> Poopdeck says, "This isn't "War!" War is declared on countries. The media has eaten up this idea that you can declare war on anything and that'll justify it. The WAR in drugs, which we're losing btw, the WAR on terrorism, which we're also losing, it seems. Because essentially, we want to lump everyone in that whole country as in on it, when they're not and most of us know they're not. But the law's something we can all get behind and agree with because it punishs exactly who's guilty in this sort of situation, the individuals."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "I don't care whose fault it is, they're riled. :)"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "This doesn't seem to be a Chinese tactic, though."

Tue Sep 11 22:29:30 2001

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Nahh."

<Public> Earthscorch nods. If it was the Chinese, it would probably be the government.

<Public> Inferno sits back and catches the flow of conversation...

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "A country wouldn't do this without claiming they did it."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "ANd this isn't a government operation. NOt for the Chinese."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "Of course, that's just what they WANT you to think. Best way to not get blamed is to follow someone else's pattern."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Which relieves me to no end."

<Public> Moonracer sends out recipe.

<Public> Ravage says, "..."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "This seemed oddly orchestrated. I mean 4 or 5 simultaneous hijackings? That's unreal."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "A country wouldn't do this period, unless you believe in Pottsylvania's idea of declaring war on the rest of the world, but not telling anybody. So, unless it was Boris and Natasha on those jets, you can bet it wasn't a country's actions."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "The thing is.. you can't just hijack a plane sucessfully without knowing how to do it.."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "But I think I must go. I hope it's some podunk group and we can bring them to justice with minimal effort. And I don't want any vigilante justice or wars to start."

<Public> Inferno says, "War has already been started."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Not really, it's a great feat of military planning, but not impossible for the average man."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "War? Who's the enemy Inferno?"

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Some of those middle eastern countries use extreme tactics... If they wanted to do us great harm, they might try something as crazy as this."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Those planes all had the same cockpit.. most likely whoever hijacked the plane trained to fly that cockpit."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "4 or 5 planes, though? Didn't only 3 hit?"

<Public> J-Turn says, "Interesting statements on ABC in the interview with Barbra Walters."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Its true that it wouldn't be hard if you knew to fly some other plane and sat down to fly the plane around.. but otherwise you'd need training to do it."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "3 hit.. a fourth plane fell into a field or something.. and was -not- shot down by the military"

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "All they did was run the pilot into the back, sit down, and run into a building. The pros did the hard part: Taking off. :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "The faction responsible for the atrocities. The government or organizations that either backed, sheltered, or both. That is the enemy, and considering the number of innocents killed today, the loss of innocents on the other end, in my opinion, is acceptable to flush the perpetrators from their holes."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "And landing, well... They didn't have to worry about that. :)"

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Dixie, even so.. it'd be hard for them to fly it."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "Okay Inferno, and who are they? If you're declaring war, you'll need to exactly identify who it is."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "Anyway... I must go. ANd if you start harming innocents, then you're just doing the tit-for-tat thing and it'll keep escalating. We have to do this as peacefully as possible. Later guys..."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "That's like just saying you want to punish 'the bad people'. Need to get a bit more specific if you wanna delcare war."

<Public> Redshift says, "Seeya ES."

<Public> Earthscorch says, "The innocents on the other end didn't do any more harm to us then our innocents did to them."

<Public> J-Turn's flown one of TWA's L-1011's. Dixie's right...it's not the flying that's hard, it's all in the take off and landing. :-/

<Public> Victory Leo says, "On the one that crashed in PA, they were saying a passenger managed to get a cell phone call out that they were being hijacked. It's possible the people on that plane managed to screw things up enough that it crashed where it did instead of at its intended target. My theory anyway :)"

<Public> Then/Than Police shout, "GAWD DAMMIT! Earthscorch is a BAD EARTHSCORCH!

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "VicLeo: Or the pilot purposely dumped it."

<Public> Inferno says, "War, in principle. Officially, you could call it a 'conflict'. Similar to how we fought not only North Vietnamese, but Chinese, Cambodian and Laotian forces in the Vietnam conflict. War is a legal speed bump at this point."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "That passenger that called was someone of note, too. Can't remember who exactly. Wife of the assistant secretary of state or something?"

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman nods. Called her husband

<Public> Redshift says, "Then/than police?"

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "That was the plane that crashed into the Pentagon"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Wife of GWB's attourney."

<Public> Inferno says, "She was an assisstant to Oklahoma State Senator Don Nickles."

<Public> Inferno says, "Olsen, I believe her name was."

<Public> Inferno says, "Assistant, even."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "J-Turn: True, in the air it will almost fly itself."

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Well, that's all they had to do. :)"

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Well, if you have it GPS-guided then it can fly itself.. but anyways.. :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "That particular lady, if she's the one you guys are talking about, was on the plane that crashed in PA."

<Public> J-Turn says, "VL: The word that I recieved via a couple of emails, was that it's highly likely that the pilot ditched that plane that crashed in PA. A friend's brother is a reporter in that area, and I've another friend whose brother normally flies Flight #11, but was today was his day off."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "There weren't pieces bigger than a breadbox left of that plane, right?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "good for the pilot then"

<Public> Inferno says, "Exactly. He did the proud and proper thing."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "Pretty much. It disintegrated on impact."

<Public> J-Turn says, "The TV news was showing that there were lots of little pieces of the PA plane. Which means the pilot managed to scrub them in the air, or they were shot down."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman nods.

Tue Sep 11 22:39:30 2001

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "J-Turn: The military says they didn't shoot it down though :)"

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme just had an odd thought.

<Public> Inferno says, "The military lies on occassion."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman knows.

<Public> Inferno says, "Not that it matters at this point, though. Lives were saved by that PA plane going down."

<Public> Redshift hmms at Taco?

<Public> Moonracer says, "Olsen was on the one that crashed into the Pentagon. One of the attendants called from the PA one."

<Public> J-Turn says, "Roman: Agreed. But they may not be allowed to give the 'offical' story yet. Either way, it did blow up before it crashed."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Because you would have 3 miles of rubble if they were so disintegrated."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "The WTC was such a point of American culture. Any 'visit to NY' episode of a TV show hasta show the landmarks, one of which is WTC. Those episodes are gonna be hard to watch for years, even if they were originally aired as comedy."

<Public> Victory Leo heard the Spiderman movie used the WTC extensively

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme thought of that for some reason. The Simpsons episode where they go to NY oddly just popped to mind. That one focuses pretty good on the WTC. Can't imagine watching it now.

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Spiderman movie?"

<Public> Defcon says, "It gets worse, Omega. Look at the Spider-Man movie trailer. The web in that trailer is strung between the two WTC towers."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Yeah, it did."

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "That reminds me. Even in a TF comic it's featured."

<Public> Defcon says, "It's an amazing shot... which makes this all the worse. Jesus."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman thinks that we definitely need to find the people who did this.

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme says, "In #67, the alt-future one where Unicron wins and Galv rules Earth, dead Rodimus is strung between the two towers."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Oh, jeez. That's right. I'd forgotten."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "Maybe in taht alt-future this never happened?"

<Public> The Great Canadian Taco, Omega Supreme thinks that'll delay the Spidey-movie. They can't possibly release it if it features a lot of WTC stuff just next May.

<Public> Defcon shrugs at Taco.

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman says, "They might just scrap it altogether."

<Public> Defcon says, "The whole movie? Unlikely."

<Public> Scrapper doubts -that'll- happen. I could see them putting a dedication on the movie, though.

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman shrugs

<Public> Defcon says, "They didn't scrap _The Crow_ when Brandon Lee died during filming, Jay."

<Public> Birthday Boy Jay Roman shrugs

<Public> Defcon says, "I know, there's a bit of difference, but I just don't see it happening. More likely a dedication, as Scrapper said."

<Public> Inferno says, "That's one thing we can't do... Personally, and as a nation, and that's to not continue straight ahead, full steam."

<Public> Defcon says, "Agreed, Inferno. As amusingly foolish as President Bush can be sometimes, he said a lot of the right things tonight. We are going to keep living. We'll mourn the dead, and tend to the wounded, but we are not going to fall apart in the face of this."

<Public> Inferno says, "He hit the nail on the head tonight, I thought. Especialy with the comment about holding the parties responsible, as well as the nation or nations that harbor them."

<Public> Scrapper says, "On the subject of not falling impart, I was impressed by the folks he saw on the news shows, the ones in NYC. Some of it was shock, sure, but very few looked liked they were panicing or breaking down. I probably said that wrong, so advanced apologies."

<Public> Defcon says, "Did you see those Palestinians celebrating? I saw that and said aloud 'I hope the Israelis wipe every one of you off the planet, you sons of bitches.'"

Tue Sep 11 22:49:30 2001

<Public> Ravage is glad he didn't see it.

<Public> Moonracer saw it.

<Public> Poopdeck read about it in the paper.

<Public> Defcon did. He needs to stop thinking about it now, because every time he does he gets an intense desire to break something.

<Public> Inferno says, "People are resilient bastards, lemme tell ya. After the Murrah bombing down here, it was common for EMS and firefighting crews to have to escort the people in the area that were injured from trying to rescue injured from the rubble. It's like the blast didn't scare them, only stoked their sense of duty to their fellow man."

<Public> Moonracer has a hard time with it. People whom she never met, never did anything to, hate her to the point of thinking she's nothing but a target....

<Public> Scrapper nods. Inferno said it better than me.

<Public> Ravagealso heard that they evacuated a lot of people from the WTC.

<Public> Ravage also, too.

<Public> Poopdeck says, "That is certainly one thing I'm always proud of. More news coverage shold highlight that during natural distatsters and wars and such, it's a side of humanity more people need to see more often than we do."

<Public> Defcon says, "They think the WTC was nearly at full-normal capacity when the planes hit. Capacity being roughly 50,000 people."

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah... But we're looking at 250 some odd firefighters and 200 some odd police officers that are mroe than likely LODD. That alone should fire up the war machine."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "Can we just plain shut the hell up one way or another about the fucking war machine?"

<Public> Inferno says, "Why? Because it upsets you? It upsets the hell out of me, too, but it's a fact."

<Public> Poopdeck says, "No, because opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, and I'm tired of seeing other people's cracks."

<Public> Victory Leo is sick to death of hearing about the whole thing

<Public> Scrapper says, "Yeah. Not much really more can be said."

<Public> Inferno says, "You're right. Screw it. Not a word more from me."

<Public> Poopdeck goes to bed anyway. Night folks, the world will be brighter in the morning, if for nothing else that the sun's up.

<O-Decepticon> Hook says, "Nurse!"

<O-Decepticon> Sunflare says, "Cookie!"

<O-Decepticon> Hook hugs the Nurse taking her to his secret lair.

Tue Sep 11 22:59:29 2001

<O-Decepticon> Sunflare says, "Cyc! Vice! Scraps! Hack! Mixy! Geist!"

<O-Decepticon> TV's Frank, Scrapper waves.

<O-Decepticon> Vice says, "Holloa, Sunny."

<O-Decepticon> Hack says, "Hey"

<O-Decepticon> Sunflare says, "Soundy! Rav! Shade! Red! Tane!"

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Heya Sunny!"

<O-Decepticon> Soundwave says, "Sunny!"

(New BB message (1/12) posted to 'Public' by Sky Lynx: A Short Reminder)

<Public> Ravage says, "Well, shit. One of my friends had a family friend who lost some relatives in the WTC."

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Message: 1/12 Posted Author

A Short Reminder Tue Sep 11 Sky Lynx

Right now I have a hole in my right arm, it's where they stuck the needle in to draw a valuable liter and a quarter of blood from me this afternoon. Do you have a hole in your arm? A lot of people would have a better chance of life if you did have a hole in your arm. Call your local blood banks, or the American Red Cross at 1-800-GIVE-LIFE. God bless us all.

-Slynx

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<Public> Redshift says, "Good for you Slynx :)"

<Public> Redshift patpats Rav.

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx nods to Red.

<O-Decepticon> Sunflare oopses and hasta go...

<Public> Inferno poked a hole in his arm... "Now what?"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike o.o;

<O-Decepticon> Hook waves.

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "Find a ziplock bag, quick!"

<O-Decepticon> As usual, Redshift says, "Bye bye."

<Public> Inferno says, "heehee"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "And Squeeze blood into it until you are about to pass out...then, stick it in a cooler with ice packs, and drive to the nearest blood donation center."

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike says, "Oh, and don't forget to wear your seatbelt ;)"

<Public> You're gay and I'm not Dixie says, "Oh, sure. They're SURE to take it. :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Man... That's almost as easy as... As... easy as... getting... faint... must. get. bag... *thump*"

<Public> Decepticons' Most Wanted, Hardstrike sighs. " Damnit, look at all that blood going to waste on the carpet.

<Public> Inferno says, "Whew... Thank God I'm such a stud, or else I might have passed out."

<Public> Scrapper says, "There's something to be said for fast clotting, of course. ;)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah. Everyone, give a lil' somethin' somethin' up to my fast clotting factor!! WHOOT WHOOT!"

Tue Sep 11 23:09:30 2001

<Public> Redshift gives ya some coffee.

<Public> Inferno says, "Now there's a bot with some class. It's called 'Dr. Inferno Jr.'. Fella has some taste."

<Public> Inferno says, "And sure enough, when it counts, ol' Dr. Inferno Jr. is getting his butt handed to him. Sheeesh."

<Public> Inferno says, "From the ashes of defeat, who steps up? Dr. INFERNO JR.!!"

<Public> Inferno says, "Wow. Will Farrell does a good Neil Diamond impression."

<Public> Scrapper says, "He's a funny Animal Control officer, too."

<Public> Inferno says, "What's that from?"

<Public> Scrapper says, "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back."

<Public> Inferno says, "I've heard that's hilarious."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Well, only if you like Kevin Smith's other stuff."

<Public> Inferno says, "Never seen any of it."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Then you might not dig it. It's essentially a 90 minute long in-joke for Smith fans. ;)"

<Public> Inferno says, "Oh."

Tue Sep 11 23:19:30 2001

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "It kicked ass though as that. :)"

<Public> Scrapper says, "Still, I dunno. It IS funny, you just won't die laughing when you see someone ask a convenience store clerk if he's even supposed to be here today."

<Public> Inferno says, "You're right."

<Public> Victory Leo chortles

<Public> Redshift says, "Hmm, the charstaff problem hasn't been corrected yet, has it?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Yes, it has"

<Public> Redshift says, "Oh, ok then."

<Public> Scrapper's hero is Randal.

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Is Randal in the movie?"

<Public> Doubleback says, "Yup. Both he and Dante are."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "But Dante got shot..."

<Public> Redshift saw the clerks animated tape.

<Public> Victory Leo says, "though I guess they cut that. Still."

<Public> Scrapper nods. "Kevin decided he din't like that ending, or something."

<Public> Scrapper says, "You'd like it, Leo. EVERYbody's in the movie."

<Admin> Moonracer says, "..?"

<Staff> Scattershot says, "Is anyone in the charstaff account?"

<Staff> FX says, "Can you get into the accounts again?"

<Staff> Victory Leo says, "It's fixed"

<Staff> FX says, "Cools. What was wrong?"

<Staff> Victory Leo says, "Dunno"

<Public> Redshift waves out, gonna go to bed. Bye all!

Tue Sep 11 23:29:28 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "Quick question... Are any of you guys seeing gas price gouging?"

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "It's 2.86 down the road, uhm Yeah."

<Public> Scrapper has heard of it. High as four bucks a gallon, some places. Or so they say.

<Public> Defcon nods disgustedly.

<Public> Inferno says, "I don't mean to hash it all back up... I was just curious if it was happening everywhere."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot heard $5 in Dallas.

<Public> Victory Leo is glad I filled up this morning. Hopefully the hysteria will be over by the time I need more

<Public> Moonracer says, "Ugh."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "MobilOil said it was because "Refinery's were being closed for security purposes..." Until some Journalist figured out nt a SINGLE one had been closed, "It's price-gouging for the sake of reaping the rewards of panic.""

<Public> Defcon says, "Assholes."

<Public> Doubleback heard on local talk radio that one station around Dallas had about a hundred cars lined up, cause people were just panicing. Was only a buck forty where I filled up, though.

<Public> Inferno says, "There was a couple of stations up on the north side that had it at $6 a gallon. Not for long, though, when a local news station slamed 'em on the news."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "My restaurant is right next to a Gas Station, our parking lot was where the line extended. Bastards."

<Public> Inferno says, "You know, there are days that I don't even want to get out of bed, wishing I was as cool as Michael Flatley."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "They're talking about price-gouging on my local news right now."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "One local station doubled their prices to 3 bucks, but lowered them back down a little bit ago."

<Staff> FX wonders if anyone would like to read a log of mine?

Tue Sep 11 23:39:29 2001

<Staff> FX says, "It's for an advancement?"

<Staff> Sky Lynx puts on his APRequest hat, "I never approved an advancement for FX!"

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa says, "Hey Ollin?"

<O-Terran> Chikome-Ollin says, "Hey, Kenny."

<Staff> FX says, "Ahh It was approved before you were APStaff ;D Actually I have a whole bunch of em that need to be Rped out. Or is that @mail now gone?"

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa says, "How you doing?"

<Staff> Sky Lynx says, "It was gone, I b'lieve"

<O-Terran> Chikome-Ollin says, "As good as can be."

<Staff> FX says, "Well Fuck."

<Staff> Scattershot says, "It's one of those days, Bry."

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa says, "That's good. I think."

<Staff> FX says, "I don't have the super long request sittin' around to send back to yah either.."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "At least you can rest assured that most major brands of cigs will remain at a healthy $3 a pack. :)"

<Staff> FX says, "So Will I have to apply again?"

<O-Terran> Chikome-Ollin says, "How 'bout yourself?"

<Staff> Sky Lynx says, "Did Dare approve it?"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Can't screw too much with addictive substances, lest people riot."

<Staff> FX says, "Poop, Daring, Eemanch.. did yes."

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa says, "Not too bad, really. This whole thing is really... surreal."

<Staff> Sky Lynx says, "Then just RP it out..."

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Staff> FX says, "Eemach"

<Public> Inferno says, "For a little while, at least, until they get back on the 'crush rural southern American economies' trip again."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Well, some tabacco regulation offices was in the WTC"

<Staff> FX says, "Okie.. Does anyone wana read a log then? ;) It's only 51 pages ;D"

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "Doesn't the Rock's wife work for Morgan Stanley Dean Witter?"

<Public> Moonracer's are abuot 4 per pack.

<O-Terran> Chikome-Ollin nods. I was home sick today, though I think it was just allergies hitting me really hard yesterday, and actually managed to watch everything unfold.

<Staff> FX says, "Heck.. I read it.. can I approve myself? ;D"

<Public> Inferno says, "I don't know. Can't say I follow the Rock that extensively."

<Public> Scrapper remembers something like that, Scats. Didn't think she was in NYC, tho.

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa has been watching it all day, since he woke up, "I remember doing the same thing during Oklahoma City and Columbine. It's hard to fully accept it as being real when you just see it on TV."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot remembers she works for some big time banking/investment firm, I'm just not sure which. But she also had a baby on August 14th so maybe she wasn't there, if that's where she works.

<Public> Inferno says, "Bjork has neat looking eyes."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "What's Morgan Stanley Dean Witter?"

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "Investment firm."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Oh."

<Public> Inferno says, "Is it 'b-jork', or 'b-york'?"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "I hope she wasn't there. I hope anyone wasn't there. Obviously some were, though."

<O-Terran> Chikome-Ollin noddles.

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "'B-york'."

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa says, "I imagine the only thing you'd get from seeing it in person is trauma, however."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "50,000 workers, who knows how many tourists/visitors/vendors/runners... if you were above the floors that the plane crashed into, it was probably impossible to get out. Dammit."

<Public> Doubleback says, "I thought I heard someone from like the 91st floor on one of the buildings got out and was talking to one of the news stations."

Tue Sep 11 23:49:29 2001

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Good lord. This could be the most bloody incident on American soil ever. I believe they said that, only during the Battle of Antiem, I think, did 22,000 people die, the most casualties ever."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "ARound that much."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "How many people died at Pearl Harbor?"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Around 2400."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "Of the 50,000 workers, the majority were evacuated in the hour between the plane crash and the collapse. And yes, this far overshadows anything we've seen since the Civil War."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Just counting the people on the planes, the cops and firemen, and the 800 estimated casualties at the Pentagon, they've already hit about 1300 people."

<Public> Moonracer nods. "A lot of people evacuated the second tower wehn the first one hit."

<O-Terran> Chikome-Ollin says, "I work for a school district, and I'd hate to imagine a Columbine type incident. Seeing something like that in person, though, I just can't imagine."

<Public> Inferno says, "This Bjork chick is freaky though, isn't she..."

<Public> Kenya Momesa mucho belatedly says, "I saw that interview, Doubleback."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "But then there's going to be people who got caught in that volcano of ash and falling debris."

<O-Terran> Kenya Momesa says, "I know what you mean. I try not to ever think about stuff like this, but sometimes you can't deny it."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot heard 800 was the upper range at the Pentagon.

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Yeah. Five floors came crashing down there."

<Public> Shockwave says, "For anyone who's interested http://www.sjp-central.com/us.php"

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "On a more positive, yet related note, the USS Enterprise was ordered to hold position somewhere in th Gulf and await further instructions. This should encourage fellow Trekkies out there."

<Public> Scrapper says, "A nuclear wessel from Alameda. ;)"

<Public> Ravage grins.

Tue Sep 11 23:59:28 2001

<Public> Ravage climbs aboard a wessel, "Rar!"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Fire the photon torpedos! Hehehehehehe"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "CAN I HAVE A MOUNTAIN DEW?"

Announcement: [MUSH Announcer]: Remember: It's Only a Game! ;)

<Public> Inferno says, "hahaha"

<Admin> Scattershot says, "Awww, Derek sent in an app double-spaced. :>"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Mmmm.. Mountain Dew"

<Public> Scrapper says, "Noo-KLEE-ar wess-El."

<Staff> Scattershot says, "Looks like there are only 5 new messages in the inbox. Any chance apps were bounced back to the senders while the telnet/FTP was down?"

<Public> Scrapper says, "Ahem. Heh."

Staff> Victory Leo says, "What's the most recent message?"

<Staff> Victory Leo says, "If any came in this weekend, then no :>"

<Staff> Scattershot says, "Okie dokie, we're good then."

<Public> Andi Lassiter goes mostly off topic. "I just read something on an email list that I can't ignore. A lady in England is going to organize making a memorial afghan dedicated to the loved ones of those lost to this tragedy. I doubt y'all will remember, but she is the same lady who organized making a quilt after the bombing in Oklahoma City that was given to the city council there. If anyone here knows how to knit and would like to join me in contributing to this, let me know and I'll forward you what I've read via email or @mail. Or, you can just heckle me. Won't make me any more upset than I have been all day."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "There's a certain irony in her making an afghan."

<Public> Inferno says, "That there is."

(New BB message (1/12) posted to 'Public' by Stratosphere: Todays Events)

<Public> Moonracer can't knit.

<Public> Andi Lassiter isn't sure what you're talking about, but then I started blocking out the world when I got home from work. It would be a misnomer to call it a quilt.

<Public> Hollis Scattershot hopes we bomb the fuck out of the *stans, but it really wouldn't solve much. These people obviously aren't afraid of dying.

<Public> Stratosphere would if I could knit, but I am just learning to sew.

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "But the more that are dead, the less that can kill our people, Scats"

<Public> Dirge says, "The President has the support of the Senate to pretty do whatever the hell he feels like at this point."

<Public> Dirge expects something big in the next week.

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "It took them 20 people at most to hijack these 4 planes. Think we can justifiably wipe them all out of existence under the flag of freedom, even though there will be countless civilian and innocent deaths?"

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "20 people to actually carry it out, I should say. Who knows how many it too to organize, granted."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "took."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "Considering right now, there is dancing in the streets in Afghanistan to Celebrate, I think we can."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "I think they'll invade. I can't see 'em just doing bombing runs."

Wed Sep 12 00:09:29 2001

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "They're not just in Afghanistan, though. The Middle East is a hotbed for those types of sentiments, but not everyone is, or is involved with a terrorist organization."

<Public> Scrapper says, "'Course, Afghanistan's currently tearing itself apart, so we could probably just wait, in that case."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Well, if bin Laden is the one to blame for this, I'll be happy with him being taken out of action."

<Public> Inferno says, "Whack 'em all."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot is sure there are 10 more ready to take his place should he bite it.

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "I don't think we should spill innocent blood, and sure, they're not afraid of dying, but bin Laden is the closest thing to a tactical genius that has come out of that region in awhile. Qadaffi and Hussein were just...comitted, if stupid. We need to just decimate the Taliban, and nationally televise bin Laden's public naked bamboo-reed beating unto death."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot did chuckle at the Iraqi "Air Force", yes. Also, killing bin Laden will guarantee him being a martyr. Although these people are pretty damned fanatic as it is, I don't know if that will have any added effect.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "as a firend of mine once said, Just kill em all and let god sort them out."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx nods, "Though I'm kinda scared that in the Bible, the end of the world begins with two towers falling down...."

<Public> Inferno says, "Easy about interpretation of that book, Lynxer... It can bite you on the hiney."

<Public> Scrapper says, "That's not the Bible, that's Nostradomus."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Um... that was a nostradamus prophecy, that was twisted."

<Public> Inferno says, "That particular book, that is."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "That was not a Nostradamus prophecy, he was never that clear."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx isn't saying it's going to com etrue, but it's pretty f***** eery, no? And someone told me Bible.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "however, I am not sure as to what I want done. Yes, I want the aftholes who did this brough to justice, but will we ever find out who did it, or will we find out that some group took responsibility for this event just to get known."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Probably thought it themselves. Last time I read Revelations there was no mention of two towers, or separating brothers."

<Public> Scrapper says, "It's one of the quatrains of his book. He's very easy to bend to what you wanna have him say."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "The two towers is Tolkien. ;)"

<Public> Moonracer says, "But I do know that Armageddon is a real place. It's in the middle east...."

<Public> Geist hees!

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "True, it could be simply bending the situation the meet the prophecy"

<Public> Masterson, Skydive couldn't wait to get here today...Hi all.

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Public> Scrapper says, "And remember, it's only a prophecy -after- the fact. ;)"

<Public> Moonracer says, "Or bending the prophecy to meet the situation."

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "Ditto."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive is in NYC.

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "Are you ok?"

<Public> Hollis Scattershot says, "Woah."

<Public> Moonracer whoa....

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Well, I should go try to sleep. I might actually fall asleep before 1am.....uh, how are you doing, Skydive?"

<Public> Masterson, Skydive is ok, "I live in Harlem so I am quite a distance away from the main action. But you know, everything here is closed down. No subway, no buses...bridges closed....-all- fedral buildings closed, along with their respective bloackades....

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "That must be creepy, so much traffic just...not there."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "What is the general feeling down there, any Anti-Moslem folks getting violent?"

<Public> Inferno says, "Man... This Bjork chick has some goofy ass music."

Wed Sep 12 00:19:29 2001

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Yeah, traffic is no exsistent. I haven't seen any anti-muslim sentiment. Yet, I spent all day working, and my job is right next to one of the area hospitals. The medical staff is on call all day and night...might be that way for a few days."

<Public> Andi Lassiter says, "Inferno, Bjork is either an absolute genius musically, or she's a total freak."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "But the general mood is somber, everyone is in disbelief....."

<Public> Inferno says, "That's too bad. She's got neat lookin' eyes. Too bad she sucks."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx is rather shocked by it, "The WTC should have virgin-tight security, after the bombings a few years ago...and just because they're the friggin' WTC... not to mention the Pentagon."

<Public> Andi Lassiter nods to Skydive. "When I first heard it on the radio on the way to work, I thought it was some 'War of the Worlds' thing, some kind of sick joke."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Well, they -did- have good security. Just not from the angle of attack."

<Public> Dirge says, "Security had nothing to do with it, Sky Lynx. How do you secure against incoming aircraft? They don't have point-defense missiles for God's sake."

<Public> Ravage says, "What the hell goes through someone's mind as they're steering an aircraft into /anything/?"

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx has no idea why they don't, Dirge, Maybe not point-defense missiles, but Anti-Aircraft weaponry at least. ESPECIALLY at the Pentagon.

<Public> Inferno says, "Usually their ass as they impact whatever it is they hit. That's the only solace I've been able to find in this, is that those bastards bought it, too."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive nods, " I mean aircraft don't go anywhere that isn't seen by somone. The first one was from Boston to LA...it was on the wrong course almost immediately after it took of to get here. Then it had to fly past the WTC and hit it from the south....I think..they did hit from the south right...let me check on that...

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "They weren't expecting it to smash into the Towers, though."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "I mean, would you, honestly, if you were dealing with terrorists?"

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "ALong with the 92 passengers on one plane...."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "One of them did pull a loop, I think."

<Public> Scrapper says, "The unfortunate part of being a democracy is you can't have armed guards stalking the streets, and tanks at any available hardpoints. Which is why the Pentagon had nothing."

<Public> Moonracer says, "The one from Boston hit the North Tower."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Doesn't the Pentagon have something, though?"

<Public> Dirge says, "They had them at the Pentagon. It was a -very- quick surprise. Besides, how do you shoot down a passenger jet over a populated area?"

<Public> Defcon says, "Not versus a suicidal pilot in a jumbo jet."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive has to go help his rommate catch a mouse..be right back...yeah it hit the north tower.....

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "It oughta have Anti-Aircraft weaponry, the White House does"

<Public> Dirge says, "Washington's defensive systems are mostly for taking out higher-altitude bombers."

<Public> Andi Lassiter waves to Skydive. NOW I'm going to go try to sleep. Maybe if I put Hysteria on repeat...good night, everyone.

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx is just shocked that people could take that much human life. Sickening.

<Public> Scrapper says, "Yeah. This was a commuter jet. Who knew?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "It was heading towards LA though.. it diverted to DC. That's not something screwed up?"

<Public> Stratosphere makes a post on how he feels about todays events.

<Public> Dirge says, "Aircraft aren't in constant communication with the ground."

<Public> Dirge says, "ATC stations only monitor their own airspace... they can't keep an eye on all aircraft nationally. Though that'll probably change in the near future."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "And plenty of aircraft take off from Boston, realize they are having a problem, and land in JFK, that's probably what Ground Control assumed was happening until too late."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Some reporters were saying that they knew it was terrorists."

<Public> Defcon votes for an armed marshal on future flights.

<Public> Victory Leo says, "I think they actually radioed and had permission to land at JFK"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "I seem to recall hearing that at some point"

<Public> Dirge says, "Besides, realistically, everyone expects terrorists to land, make demands, and get taken out by a Seal team."

<Public> Moonracer votes never to set foot on an airplaine again.

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul Waves. "Everyone OK?"

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx votes for 747's full of angsty inner city gang members to be landed on the soil of whichever country backed this operation, the planes to return home empty, and then let Darwin's Theory take over.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Exactly, Dirge. They never expected they were crash into the Tower"

<Public> Inferno wonders why the passengers didn't take control, when they were being held hostage with knives?

<Public> Dirge knows some people who got really shaken up. The plane that crashed in PA hit almost within sight of a friend-of-mine's house.

<Public> Victory Leo says, "Because they didn't want to die"

Wed Sep 12 00:29:29 2001

<Public> Victory Leo says, "They probably figured they'd land and be negotiated out too."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "You can kill someone just as easily with a knife, as a gun"

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "It's not hard to hijack a plane, Inferno, casually walk into the cockpit and press the button that seals off the Cockpit... y'know the button that protects plainsf rom Terrorism."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive just heard that a van full of explosives was just stopped at George Washington Bridge...that is less than ten blocks from where I was....

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "They probably roughed someone up to prove they meant business."

<Public> I Am Elvis Sky Lynx says, "Planes, not Plains"

<Public> Dirge says, "It's possible that the passengers on the first jet didn't know until too late, even."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Plus, God knows you've got minimum-wage folks working at airports with no security checks."

<Public> Arachnae says, "Hello."

<Public> Moonracer pounces Nae.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "from wha tI heard, the plane in PA did a nose dive. and not the angled decent, but a vertical shot to the ground."

<Public> Dirge says, "On the one that went down in PA, they knew, though. (Scrapper's been listening to NPR, too!)"

<Public> Scrapper says, "Yeah. Though I turned it off, after a while. The last thing I needed to listen to was stupid callers."

<Public> Dirge had the strange notion that it was possible the passengers found out through some sort of wireless comm device.

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "NPR!!!"

<Public> Inferno says, "I know it sounds unrealistic, but c'mon. Surely the numbers alone would have made it worth the effort."

<Public> Moonracer says, "A few of them had made phone calls."

<Public> Dirge says, "Not if the pilot were dead already."

<Public> Dirge says, "If they were told to stay calm, that the terrorists were the only ones who could fly the plane, and that they were going to land and be let off peacefully, the passengers would probably risk just sitting still."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Yeah. It stands to reason the terrorist fucks knew how to fly a plane."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "From CNN and ABC, the way the PA one found out, was that some wife to some senator was on the flight. the former federal attorney that was ont he Conduit thing was on the plane and called her husband on her cell phone."

<Public> Inferno says, "Good point. Maybe it's just me. I'd hate to die knowing I didn't put up the fight of my life."

<Public> Defcon says, "Same here, Inferno."

<Public> Arachnae says, "And another passenger on the pittsburg crash called his mom on the skyphone."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Not PA, that was the pentagon, Stratosphere."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Oh, I thought it was PA. my bad."

<Public> Moonracer says, "The one in PA was a 911 call from a stewardess."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Heard three things on the PA one. Did they ever find out if it was heading for Camp David?"

<Public> Victory Leo says, "The PA one freaked me out. It was like, what do they have worth attacking here? Are they going to crash planes in every major city?"

<Public> Dirge says, "They have no idea."

<Public> Inferno says, "That's the general opinion the last I heard about it..."

<Public> Defcon chuckles at what would happen if someone tried to hijack a plane with me and Inferno on it. 'This plane is being taken over in the name of the Is-- whaa! AAH! AAAAAAAAAGGGGH!!!' *RIP* *SHRED* *WISHBONE* ... "Hey, Big Dave, there's a piece of him on you." "Cool."

<Public> Dirge says, "They were en-route to somewhere else. Possibly a national military facility in Maryland."

<Public> Moonracer says, "They aren't sure if it's Camp David or teh White House."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I asked the same thing Leo, what is in Philly and someone said the hockey team and I said oh so nothing huh? :)"

<Public> Inferno says, "hahahaha Hell yeah."

<Public> Moonracer says, "And apparantly one of the tower ones may have had a kid calling his parents on it."

<Public> Victory Leo says, "PITTSBURGH"

<Public> Dirge says, "That flight was out of Newark, headed to the west coast. If it was hijacked, it would bank through western PA."

<Public> Dirge says, "To get to Washington."

<Public> Victory Leo is over 300 miles from Philly, I am nowhere near Philly, Pittsburgh is not Philly

<Public> Inferno says, "There's a big AFB in Frederick, MD, isn't there?"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I can see a plane being hijacked with a load of 2k5ers on it. Take on the personalities of our characters here. :)"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Eh."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Um. Whatever."

<Public> Defcon says, "Nah... but after this, I seriously doubt people are going to really believe they'll live through a hijacking."

<Public> Dirge says, "My roommate's dad was jogging in DC when he heard the plane hit the Pentagon. Another friend-of-mine's mom works in the Pentagon. Weird that I know so many people directly involved."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane doesn't know what he'd do if some psycho took over a plane I was on.

<Public> Moonracer says, "Hence I am NOT flying again."

<Public> Arachnae says, "If you'll note, they struck a trade center. And the pentagon. Trade center disrupted the worlds entire economic structure for a day and the ramifications fromt hat wont be fully felt for weeks to come. The pentagon strike seemed to be aimed at sowing more confusion. Just.. surreal."

<Public> Defcon says, "Hopefully, the passengers will just mob the hijacker, because with this precedent, they have to know they might not be surviving anyways."

<Public> Moonracer says, "I don't care if Rusty doesn't give me that job. I'm not going on another damned plane."

<Public> Inferno says, "Good. Hopefully people will realize just that."

<Public> Dirge says, "Hopefully hijackers will realize that from now on, all passengers will be bloodthirsty paranoids."

<Public> Arachnae says, "Have we heard from all of our folks in New york? The players that we know are there?"

<Public> Inferno says, "Wow... I just yanked down a Bjork tune that's a big band swing type thing. If she'd quit screaming like an idiot, it'd be a decent lil' rocker."

<Public> Dirge doesn't know who's in NY.

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "That 72 hour bus trip looks awfully appealing"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I have a cosiun who is a commander int he NAvy Reserves based out of DFW. He's a pilot instructor. I got another cusion stationed in Geremeny, plus we all know of Bandit who is an Air Force pilot based out of Omaha and Drag strip in Japana who is a marine and isn't ruin int he military. All of those, espically those last three are gonna need support if they are called if and when we go into war."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "and yes there are typos in that. I was typing to fast."

<Public> Moonracer says, "Still trying, Nae."

Wed Sep 12 00:39:28 2001

<Public> Arachnae says, "My mothers bf is scheduled to leave the navy on friday. He was told today that they might not let him go. He wont know for 3 days if He's a civilian or not."

<O-Decepticon> Arachnae says, "Thanks mOon. Who have we not herad from?"

<Public> Moonracer says, "I'm sorry, Nae."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive is in NY.

<Public> Arachnae says, "Thanks mOon. Who have we not herad from?"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I wonder how Bandit is really. Since his wife tara is pregent and all."

<Public> Arachnae says, "This is meant as a light attempt at humor. I thought my week couldnt get any worse after sunday night. Now I cant fly to boston to retrieve my grandfatehr rfom the mass. hospital system."

<Public> Moonracer isn't sure who exactly is in NY, at the moment.

<Public> Defcon hugs Nae.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Tried to give bandit a call, his number has been disconnected. :("

<Public> Arachnae hugs Defcon.

<Public> Inferno says, "Bear with it, Nae... Word is they might lift the flight restrictions as early as noon tomorrow."

<Public> Ravage hugs NaeNae.

<Public> Stratosphere knows three of the mushers here are in the north west Missouri area. Krystal, me and J-Turn.

<Public> Dirge says, "Even if they do lift the flight restrictions, do you think they'll just resume as normal?"

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Hell no."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "Everything down to a blood test, probably."

<Public> Inferno says, "As much as they can, to make up the backlog, and tighten security."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Ah, fellow Missourians."

<Public> Inferno says, "You can't ask for much more, I guess, considering the circumstances."

<Public> Inferno says, "I took my honeymoon in Mizzou."

<Public> Arachnae says, "Well, they arnt releaseing him for a few more days. With over 40,000 folks displaced on flights today, its going to take a week for things to get back up. We can always drive up there and drive back him and my grandmother back."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "where you live Kenya?"

<Public> Inferno says, "this Bjork chick is like fungus. It'll grow on ya if you let it."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "In St. Charles, which is 45 minutes from St. Louis."

<Public> Moonracer hugs Nae. will be either driving or taking a bus most places.

<Public> Stratosphere knows where St. Charles is.

<Public> Inferno is from St. Needabrew.

<Public> Arachnae says, "Great... Bank of amerca's mainframe, the one that handles debit cards was in one of those buildings.. Guess this means that I shouldnt use my card for a while."

<Public> "Will Work For Donuts" Octane says, "The AmEx building was aflames this morning."

<Public> Inferno says, "This is hilarious. I went from grinding my teeth at her screaming to actually laughing in delight. I think there is subliminal messages in this crap."

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Public> Kenya Momesa eyes Inferno.

<Public> Moonracer needs to get to bed

<Public> Stratosphere says, "where is that at ferno?"

<Public> Inferno says, "Bjork. I've never heard any of her music, and on a kick, started pulling down some."

<Public> Moonracer hugs those that need it, and wanders off.... Good night.

<Public> Arachnae says, "Head to bed Moons, I'm about there myself. just wanted to see if anyone had caught word from Esse or naomi."

<Public> Inferno says, "I got it off of IMESH. No place in particular."

<Public> Scrapper finds he's exhausted, too. I'll see everyone tomorrow, tho.

<Public> Arachnae says, "See you scrapper."

Wed Sep 12 00:49:27 2001

<Public> Doubleback says, "Vic said something about Essi earlier, not being in the area."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Shit, I forgot about Essi."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "One of the worst things is the 200 or so firemen that were in the building trying to help when it collapsed."

(New BB message (1/13) posted to 'Public' by Stratosphere: Addon to my post)

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Todays Events Wed Sep 12 Stratosphere

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Hi all, most of ya know me as Stratosphere or Compile. But like FX, I am struck with a time to reflect on how open the United States is to those of the world who have different views. I am not a very religious person, so I won't go into anything bible related, although after todays events, I would like to help. But being a Diabetic limits me in alot of ways. Both finically and on a level of wanting to give blood. But I am gonna do one thing that will help, at least to me. And that is to read the bible and say a pray for the families and those who lost people in the attack today.

I want to quote something, that I think has a meaning to those of us today who saw from the TV, or heard on the radio or who saw first hand in NYC and DC. It's is from a famous speech that was said by a president that took a nation to War. I'm not gonna quote the who speech, just a line that has some meaning... SEPTEMBER 11, 2001 - a date which will live in infamy - the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked...

This one line holds more to the people of the united States more so, just like it did on December 7, 1941 when Franklin D. Roosevelt spoke it to a nation that was screaming for revenge. Today, I am not coming to you as a fellow Musher, but as an American Citizen who asks one simple request. to say a pray for those who have lost something dear to them. Rather it be a friend, a loved one or a complete stranger. Also pray for the men and women who will be defending the country when the people who are responsible for this are found. Like I said, I say this not as the entity known as Stratosphere or Compile but as a 24 year old named John Seever.

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Addon to my post Wed Sep 12 Stratosphere

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If anyone has ICQ and want to add me to their ICQ, my number is [icq removed]. Just if anyone wants to talk, vent, etc. I'll be glad to listen to ya.

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<Public> Inferno says, "Damn straight."

<Public> Arachnae says, "Mayor of NY said they have near 300 unaccounted for firefolks. Swoops roomies dad is a policeofficer in jersey. He was hit with building parts as it collapsed. He's alright, but the guys that were right behind him running didnt make it."

<Public> Scrapper says, "Well, anyhow, later. I wish I had Winston Churchill's gift for public speaking, but sadly I don't. Best I can do is, it'll only stop us if we left it. We can get through it. You want some better, go read FX's post on board 1. Night, God bless, etc."

<Public> Arachnae says, "walk with the winds, Scrapper."

<Public> Inferno says, "Dammit again! Screw this. It's 2K Pro when I wipe this box next time."

<Public> Arachnae says, "Night all. Time for me to go to bed."

<Public> Inferno says, "I thought ME was smooth as silk when I first threw it on, but I've had nothing but crap for trouble lately, with stupid stuff. Damn you, Bill Gates!!"

Wed Sep 12 00:59:29 2001

(New BB message (1/14) posted to 'Public' by FX: Today's Events)

Wed Sep 12 01:09:28 2001

<Public> Drag Strip waves.

<Public> Chairman Kaga Brent says, "Yo"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul waves

<Public> Snitch wavies.

<Public> Chairman Kaga Brent says, "Everybody 'round here have all hands and feet accounted for?"

<Public> Defcon hugs Brent. I think so... as far as players go anyways.

<Public> Snitch checks his fingers and toes, "Yep, 6 fingers on each."

<Public> Chairman Kaga Brent says, "Good, good."

<Public> Inferno says, "heehee"

<Public> Chairman Kaga Brent trundles off to bed. We'll go get 'em tomorrow.

<Public> Chairman Kaga Brent says, "Later"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "take care."

<Public> Inferno says, "Oh yes... Yes, yes, yes, YES! Spumco has a website!!"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Spumco?"

<Public> Snitch says, "Guys who made Ren and Stimpy."

<Public> Dirge grahs at his connection.

<Public> Inferno says, "Yeah."

Wed Sep 12 01:19:28 2001

<Admin> Whiz finishes watching CNN and logs on to see if everyone is ok

<Admin> FX nods.

<Admin> FX says, "Now I am."

<Admin> Whiz was worried about Ms Susan there

<Admin> Whiz says, "And Scatts"

<Admin> Ruin is as well as can be expected. "I was flipping out for a while until I found out that Audra flew back in a few days ago, and was already safely home. Got a few co-workers who lost family, though."

<Admin> Ruin says, "One of the sergeants in my company lost 4 family members. They were among the first few bodies recovered."

<Public> Dirge says, "Hey, can anyone remember the last time Cuba offered us airspace or airstrips? Unreal."

<Admin> Whiz says, "My god, I'm very sorry"

<Admin> Whiz says, "Do you know what will come next for you guys?"

<Public> Defcon says, "...say WHAT?"

<Admin> Ruin says, "Don't know, no. But I have several very good ideas."

<Admin> Whiz says, "Well, solid ideas. Good ideas, we'll see."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "They said they'd give us full support if need be."

<Admin> Ruin says, "My supervisor is still waiting on word about his brother. Hasn't been able to get ahold of him yet, so he doesn't know if he's alive or dead. Guy's a nervous wreck."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Offered doctors too"

<Admin> Whiz says, "We have a few scholars in New York and Washington and they have either checked in personally, or someone from their office has told them they're okay"

<Public> Snitch says, "Ya, so did Palistine didn't they? Or did they just say it was a bad thing?"

<Admin> Whiz says, "Er, told us"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Libya offered solidarity too."

<Public> Defcon says, "Somehow I doubt Palestine's gonna be much help. I saw film footage of them dancing in the streets."

<Admin> Ruin says, "We're going to be sending a lot of people out there to help in the Civil Ops and Rescue missions, and just about the rest of us are going to be sitting here running communications for the teams."

<Public> Inferno says, "Libya I could see before Cuba... Wow. Ol' Fidel has GOTTA have somethin' up his sleeve."

<Admin> FX says, "Most phonelines in & out of NYC are shut down."

<Public> Defcon says, "I'm suffering from an uncontrollable urge to suggest to our military that we double our aid to Israel."

<Public> Ruin says, "Palestinians. There is no Palestine."

<Admin> Pak-Gor says, "Sprint PCS is sending a bunch of phones down there and sending technicians to boost our antenna capacity so New York emergency teams can use 'em."

<Public> Inferno says, "Double our aid, and send a combo task force to solidify Israeli positions on the Golan Heights."

<O-Decepticon> 'Great Spotted Kiwi' Headlong waves!!

<Public> Drag Strip might get to go.

<Public> Inferno says, "Hell, when did you sneak in here, Ruin?"

<Public> Dirge says, "You know you have the full support of most of the world, DS, if you go."

<Public> Ruin says, "About 25 minutes ago. Just got off work, so I can sleep and then go back in and pull another 12-hour shift."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Get to go where, Strip?"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul Suspects Ruin must be having one heck of a day

(New BB message (1/15) posted to 'Public' by Whiz: Please)

<Public> Ruin says, "That's putting it mildly."

<Public> Dirge says, "What do you do and where, Ruin?"

<Public> Ruin can't even give blood until later on this week, because there's NO traffic at all coming on or going off post.

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul hehs. "Understatement? Me? Never"

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "At least you have a smallpox vaccination"

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy says, "PAKKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROAD TO RUIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KIBBLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROCKSHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SUSAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy says, "HIDDEN WHIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<Public> Defcon says, "He's military, Dirge."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "If we go anywhere, the Marines will probably go first, because the President doesn't need Congress's approval to send Marines. III MEF (from Okinawa) went to Desert Storm, so we might go wherever if the shit hits the fan."

<Admin> FX says, "Airwolf hasen't gotten ahold of Naomi as far as I know yet."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Z!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1"

<Public> Dirge ahs.

<Public> Ruin works Computer Telecommunications on Ft. Huachuca, the intelligence and communications hub for the entire Army.

<Admin> Whiz says, "Damn, I was hoping there'd be something."

<O-Decepticon> El Red Boy Frenzy says, "HEADLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIRGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAZY SHADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MARINE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "STRATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<O-Decepticon> Happy Dude, Dirge waves to Z.

<O-Decepticon> 'Great Spotted Kiwi' Headlong says, "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!! *hurra*"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "SNITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FERN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MEW MEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEFCON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KENYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<O-Decepticon> El Red Boy Frenzy says, "LICIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

<Admin> Pak-Gor says, "Whoa..."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Hey, anyone heard from Bandit?"

Wed Sep 12 01:29:28 2001

<Public> Inferno says, "Big Z. What's cookin', hoss?"

<Public> Ruin is hoping I don't get deployed to SWA, since I just came from there two years ago, but with my luck it'll probably happen.

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Yeah, DS is military too aint he? I give you my support guys cause I dont think you'll be having to much free time in the next week"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Hey Frenzy."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Heya Z"

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Z??"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy waves

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "SKYDIVE!!!!!!!!!! :)"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Thank you."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Z!!!!!!!!!!"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "If I could help in anyway, I would. Being a diabetic sucks."

<Public> Defcon would love to see the Marines walk into Afghanistan and drag Osama Bin Ladin back out.

<Public> Dirge says, "DS, if the President wants to commit military forces, Congress isn't going to oppose him, I think."

<Public> Ruin says, "Right now, though, most of the focus is on minimizing the damage and loss of life. We're going to be sending a LOT of people to help out in the areas that were hit."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "You guys got my support to DS and Ruin. Now if only I could get ahold of Bandit."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "True. But he wouldn't even have to notify them for 90 days (IIRC)."

<Public> Dirge nods. "Heard something about warships being deployed to NY."

<Public> Ruin says, "Being diverted."

<Public> Dirge imagines they were sub-hunters, but I can only speculate, really.

<Public> Inferno says, "Yup. Some destroyers and a few frigates, from what I heard."

<Public> Defcon says, "Congress has more or less put aside its differences for the moment. Which is a good thing."

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "A refrigerator?"

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "I think that's to help in the rescue efforts also"

<Admin> FX sighs at stupid Netzero.

<Admin> FX says, "Did I miss anything?"

<Public> Ruin says, "There was a group heading to the Gulf to relieve the carrier group there, but they kept the carrier group there, and had the ships go to NY."

<Public> Inferno says, "that'll be one of the only times you'll see Trent Lott nod in agreeance with Tom Daschle..."

<Public> Ruin says, "They weren't sub-hunters, though. They were there for additional AA support."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz was trying to listen to NPR at work (yes, we were working all day) and couldn't even get it to work properly with a T1 line, couldn't establish a connection and then kept losing it.

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy says, "You missed my logging in :)"

<Public> Stratosphere nods "I think it was 2 carriers, three frigates and 5 battleships to help with the relief effort and all. since the carriers have big med bays on them.

<Admin> FX says, "I saw that, Scott ;D"

<Admin> FX says, "Last I saw was Pak saying Woah."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "NPR??"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "So what do you think about all this mess, William?"

<Admin> Ruin says, "Has anybody gotten word on Essi? The M3 folks need some reassurance."

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "National Public RAdio"

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy says, "No, but I heard he didn't work anymore at the WTC"

<Public> Drag Strip watches the news. Geez.

<Public> Tealess Frenzy waits for William's marine response

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "There's already a carrier group of 2 Nimitz class carriers and 3 AEGIS cruisers at New York Harbor, my friend is a Nuke Tech on one of the carriers."

<Public> Inferno says, "Park those 40 pounders off the coast somwhere, and prime the pipes."

<Public> Dirge says, "Holy crap."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "I think... I don't know. I feel mad. This is what I'm here for, not bankers and secretaries."

<Public> Inferno says, "Those AEGIS cruisers are some heavy duty asswhoopers."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Any word on mobilization DS? I'd figure Okinawa would be one base that would be used."

<Admin> Whiz says, "Hey, FX?"

<Public> Dirge says, "You catch the names of the cruisers?"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor still can't get over it. New York's World Trade Center... The Twin Towers.. Just not there anymore. New York's cityline's never gonna look the same..

<Admin> Whiz says, "Can you change the name of BB 20 temporarily and remove the two posts still on it?"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "We've got a typhoon sitting on us right now. Mobilization is going to have to wait."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive is in NY. It doesn't.

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "No, I only know that my friend is on one of the cruisers, and his wife is hysterical over it."

<Admin> Whiz says, "Correction, one"

<Public> Inferno says, "One was definitely called the S.S. Imgonnagetyousucka, and I think another one was the S.S. Kissyerassgoodbye."

<Public> Ruin says, "The Kennedy and the Washington, IIRC."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "didn't a total of 4 building come down. I know the Twin towers and something called building 7, but any others?"

<Public> Ruin has been in touch with a Navy bud of mine.

<Public> Defcon laughs at Inferno.

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "The WTC consists of 7 skyscrapers, 1, 2, and 7 are all completely collapsed."

<Public> Tealess Frenzy wonders if Ruin is in the military

<Public> Ruin is in the Army. "You know this."

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "Ruin == Andre?"

<Public> Dirge says, "7 is significantly smaller, though. I think it got crushed."

<Public> Ruin says, "Yes, fool. :D"

<Public> Inferno says, "As in the Giant?"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "Hey, I didn't know!"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "Sue me :)"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "And I think the other ship was CVN Canofwhoopass. :)"

<Public> Ruin says, "Didn't get crushed. Structural damage from the impacts."

<Public> Inferno says, "You know, I think you're right, Strats."

<Public> Ruin says, "Miraculously enough, both Tower 1 and Tower 2 collapsed in on themselves."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "it came down at like I think um 4pm CST or so."

<Admin> Whiz thinks the removing is easy but for the name you might have to find the dbref# for the board

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Don't forget CVN I'mfullofMarineswantingtoripoffyourheadandshitdownourneck."

<Admin> FX says, "Done"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "According to the news reports, 7 collapsed just over an hour ago."

<Public> Inferno says, "Hell yeah, DS. the pride of the fleet."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "The latest bit of footage of the second plane is unbelieveable"

<Admin> FX says, "That an OK name?"

<Admin> Whiz isn't sure I like that name

<Public> Dirge says, "What, specifically, Whiz?"

<Admin> FX just used the name from the new broadcasts

<Admin> FX says, "news."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "There was one shot that must have been only like 2 blocks away on a rooftop of the second plane's impact."

<Admin> Whiz says, "I would like it to be more 'safe'"

<Public> Dirge hrms.

<Admin> Whiz says, "Like "I'm safe" updates"

<Public> Stratosphere says, "and it was a Boing 767 to. the second biggest passenger craft built. I'm glad it was not a 777."

<Admin> Whiz says, "Or RL Updates"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Or a 747."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "The angle is just below one of the wings"

<Public> Inferno says, "Wow..."

<Admin> FX says, "There."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Well, they deliberately chose cross-country aircraft that had just taken off to ensure that they had a full load of jet fuel"

<Public> Dirge finds it odd that all of the flights were -very- lightly booked.

Wed Sep 12 01:39:27 2001

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "And when they hit the building you just expect them to keep on going but they don't, they just disintegrate"

<Public> Dirge says, "Any of those flights could've held over 200 people."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Call me paranoid but I wish to god you could get a smallpox vaccination in this country"

<Public> Inferno says, "Surely cross country traffic on a Tuesday wouldn't exactly be super busy, at least a person would think so."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "And Skydive, please post to BB 20 that you're okay"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Actually Whiz, in one of the shots of both craft, the nose just barely protrudes from the other side of the building, which is why they eventually imploded. The central support column was wiped out completely."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Didn't they take off fairly early too?"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "I just saw the shot you were talking about, Scan."

<Public> Dirge says, "Yeah. 7am-ish."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "They were timed not to get the most number of people on the plane but the greatest number inthe buildings."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Hey Dirge, reason they were all lightly booked is believed to be in order to make it easier to subdue the crowd without firearms."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "they collapsed in on themelves, but the buildings were 110 stories high, there is no way they aren't going to hit something on the way down....and someone. WTC 7 is the perfect example."

<Public> Kenya Momesa shares something with ya'll. The flight numbers were 11, 93, 175 and 77. 11 is obvious. 9 + 3 = 12. 1 + 7 + 5 = 13. 7 + 7 = 14.

<Public> Stratosphere says, "cause an airplane is only made of Alimunium and that is only 6 inches thick. Plus I think whoever was behind it got the planes that were going to be in NY airspace and all. But I want to know who and was this day something of inportance? Didn't something else happen on 9-11?"

<Public> Dirge figured it must be something like that, Scandal. Or just random chance.

<Public> My neighbor Whiz can't believe nobody tried to stop them. Yes, they had knives, yes, there were three of them, but there were EIGHTY PASSENGERS

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Kenya, that is creepy"

<Public> Dirge thinks, Whiz, that no one believed they were in any danger as long as they stayed in their seats.

<Public> Ruin says, "Someone did."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Does not get it Kenya?"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Yeah. By the way, I brought up the whole 'WTF didn't anyone try to rush them', but someone elseMUSH said that they think they might've said they had bombs."

<Public> Inferno says, "Exactly, Whiz. I'd take a knife to the gut to save someone. Especially if I was of the mind that there was a chance for survival."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "That's what the guy on the plane to SF told his mom"

<Public> Ruin says, "The hijackers herded all the passengers to the back of the plane, but the one that crashed outside of Pittsburg apparently went down so far away from it's target because the passengers or crew struggled."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal nods, "7 bit the dust because of debris crushing it, and it just became unsound, then about an hour ago it too imploded. But noone is thought dead in it, it had been long evacuated.

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "11, 12, 13 and 14, Strato. At the very least, it's an eerie coincidence that the flight numbers would equal that, isn't it? Might've been used for coordination."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "They've been talking about how it's significan't 'cuz of the Camp David Accords, and then there're those who've been saying today's 911..."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Ah."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "They got one of the motherfucker's luggage."

(New BB message (20/1) posted to 'RL Updates' by Skydive: First in NYC)

<Public> Kenya Momesa has seen the 911 thing mentioned.

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Where did you see that, DS?"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "What 911 thing?"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Scuse my french."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "911. Today's 9/11."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "911 being the emergency service number."

<Public> Inferno says, "I'm thinking the Camp David Accords are more of an influence, if at all. Maybe they just liked the weather today. It's all inconsequential at this point, though."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "anyone good with longitude and latitude?"

<Admin> FX says, "Well. I must go to bed.. I have an interview in the morning."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor also heard someone on talk radio saying something about some Olympic thing..

<Public> Drag Strip says, "CBS. A copy of the Koran (sp), a fuel consuption calculator, and some arabic passenger liner training books."

<Public> Inferno says, "Longitude is long, and latitude is, well, lattish in a warm and special way."

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy says, "Good luck, Bry :)"

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy says, "Call me!"

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy sounds like a SO or something. Call me!!! hehehe :)

<Admin> FX says, "Hopefully.. I will."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "I think Strato is looking for numbers."

<Admin> FX says, "Er. Hopefully.. with the good luck and I'll call you. Yes... You know what I mean."

<Public> Inferno says, "heehee"

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy :)

<Admin> FX says, "Just hopes it's not what we know what luck stands for.."

<Public> Inferno says, "My finger hurts, dammit."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Iraq called these attacks 'the fruits of America's attacks against humanity.' I'm all for making Iraq a big window."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Well, I asked else MU on Kenya's numbers there and someone said 'It's an equation relating to Nostradamus. Or the number of the beast. It's supposed to mathematically prove how this is the end of the world according to prophecy'"

<Public> Dirge says, "Or puddle."

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy nods.

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy says, "F..."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "I hear that glass and mirrors make the place hot over there."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Thanks for posting, Skydive, someone may be asking about you tomorrow and it's good that they can know right away."

<Public> Inferno says, "Prophecy my ass."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Melt all the sand to glass so we can see some lava."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "I wouldn't go that far, Strato... And I don't see how any of those numbers are the number of the beast."

<Admin> FX says, "I've been fucked enough.. and not in a good way."

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy nods

<Public> Stratosphere says, "hey, I am just saying what he said elseMU* Me to. I always though 666 was the mark of the beast."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "There have been lots of different reactions in the city today, that one is probably one of the most common."

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "Art Bell is talking about the NOtradamus thing now"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "Or..he was"

<Public> Inferno says, "I prophesize that given the chance, some islamic fundamentalists are gonna get an up close and personal visit with good ol' Mohammed and Allah here pretty damn soon."

Wed Sep 12 01:49:28 2001

<Public> Ruin thinks Saddam needs to be careful with what he says or implies, if he wants to keep his little pocket dictatorship.

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "The thing that nobody is mentioning is that we trained the people in Afghanistan. We trained and financed them while they were fighting the Soviet Union."

<Public> Ruin says, "It's not like we've never toppled/changed foriegn governments before."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "we trained and financed the Iraquis while we hated Iran"

<Public> Ruin says, "That's because everybody tries to forget it."

<Public> Defcon says, "Not necessarily, Whiz."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "I'm not sure if it's still up... but on a newsgroup at TrekRPG.net, the site admin posted a link to a google newsgroup that contained some provocative posts made a week ago that may concern the day..."

<Public> Inferno says, "Kinda like how we armed and trained Iraq when we were catching all that hell from Iran?"

<Public> Defcon says, "The mujahedin were flattened by the Taliban after the Soviets were pushed out."

<Public> Ruin says, "Really, we have only ourselves to blame for the whole mess with our involvements in the Middle East."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "I have the address, if people want it."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "my question is, if we go to war against whoever? Will it be just an US backed attack or will alot of nations get in on it?"

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "When we put our hand in there to stir things up, things get worse."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "I think any retaliation, given that we can prove ourselves in the right somehow, will be backed by the rest of the world."

<Public> Ruin says, "A few other nations will get involved. Britian pretty much always supports us militarily."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "sure Kenya. might as well read it?"

<Public> Kenya Momesa puts it here, for anyone that wants it: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&frame=right&th=54ab4d241c34e0cc&seekm=3b8fd177%40monitor.lanset.com#link1

<Public> Defcon says, "*laughs*"

<Public> Dirge says, "Japan's pissed off mightily -- their stock market just hit an 18-year low."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Reportedly, it was reported to the FBI. So it might have been taken down."

<Public> Defcon says, "From the desk of Lum The Mad: Israel has offered any help we need, including rescue teams. They've got LOTS of experience at this sort of thing. Their offer is also not purely altrusitic. Frankly, I suspect Sharon could kick out every Palestinian in the West Bank into Jordan tomorrow (which isn't terribly far-fetched, the hard right has been advocating exactly this for some time) and America would say "Okey dokey." That's what floors me about the pictures of Palestinians dancing in the streets. They have no clue that were it not for the US restraining Israel, their "holy war" would have been stomped flat months ago. That restraint is GONE."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "For the first time in my life, I agree with the prospect of war. But I also think we need to be totally sure of who we're warring with first."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "We may have been the 'main military force' in the middle east, but we werne' tthe only ones"

<Public> Dirge says, "And the EU isn't too happy, either."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Most of the European Union, etc."

<Public> Inferno says, "It's like a splinter. If you let it sit, it's going to fester, and possibly kill you with blood poisoning. If you decide to dig it out, there's a good chance it's gonna hurt like hell, and you're gonna bleed, but when you're done, things can heal and the situation can improve. We need to remove that splinter."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "If we just go kill Osama Bin Laden then he becomes a holy martyr to his followers."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Strat, I'm up here in canada and Chechin(sp?) has already guarantee'd canadian backing, and I believe Israel and Britain will also go with us when we make our move."

<Public> Inferno says, "Then crush the majority of followers."

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "Well, what if he had nothing to do with it?"

<Public> Tealess Frenzy says, "Then we kill the wrong guy"

<Public> Ruin says, "Not the wrong guy."

<Public> Dirge says, "Plus the fact that Israel is one of the most well-organized and equipped militaries in the world... man, if they get hostile, bad things will happen to their targets."

<Public> Inferno says, "Of friggin' well. We know for a fact he was involved in the earlier bombing of the WTC."

<Public> Inferno says, "Oh, not of."

<Public> Ruin says, "Even if he's innocent of this, he's still got about a dozen other attacks under his belt."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "The rest of his followers will crush themselves, but they'll be wearing bombs and walking into our buildings when they do it."

<Public> Dirge says, "Bin Laden also had influence on the bombing of the Cole."

<Public> Ruin says, "Which he still hasn't been held accountable for."

<Public> Defcon says, "We need an example, as they say. We need to make it perfectly clear that we have had quite enough of folks bombing us."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "NATO may have to back us, since NATO members are required to assist other NATO members that are attacked."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "it's stillup."

<Public> Dirge says, "NATO had to evacuate their facilities. They're not happy, either."

<Public> Ruin doesn't really think that it's going to come to war with Afghanistan, though. "After tonight, I think the Taliban's going to be pretty nervous. Chances of them just handing Bin Laden over are pretty good."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Osama bin Laden is guilty of countless terrorist attacks. We can't limit ourselves to the terrorists who did -this- attack. We need to wipe out -all- terrorist groups. Period."

<Public> Defcon says, "They have to, Ruin. Look at what Bush said."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Weird, ain't it, Strato?"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Just remember..it's the WORLD trade center. And the US is a major economic hub..and NYC is in the ceter of it. Whoever attacked us struck at more then just the US"

<Public> Defcon says, "Quote from Bush: We will make no distinction between terrorists, and those who harbor them."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "If they give em up, Defcom, they arent harboring em"

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Today was the first time I felt any good feelings about our president."

<Public> Defcon says, "Exactly. If they turn him over, we'll leave them alone."

<Public> Defcon says, "If they don't, we'll make them wish they had. It's that simple."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "I suspect he was more warning any countries that may be involved...we're ticked, hand em over now. :)"

<Public> Dirge says, "Hey, it's not a bad thing to have a gun-totin' Texan in office when someone decides to kick up dust in our backyard."

<Public> Inferno says, "And let them sit so they can crank out another Bin Laden prototype. Bullcrap."

<Public> Ruin knows, and knew that he was going to say something along those lines. "But I'm pretty sure he's going to actually need to use a show of force. Which won't take too much effort. The carrier group in the Gulf has cruise missiles."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive can say that he still doesn't back war....I swould think that somehow someway, it was set up....bad ecomnomy needs a war. ANyway I don't drive, what's up with gas prices?

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "Yep. Texan's are the most likely to take an aggressive reaction to this. Helluvalot better then a californian. =P"

<Public> Drag Strip says, "266-285 on the planes, 100-800 at the pentagon... 300 firefighters alone at the WTC..."

<Public> Ruin says, "Plus near 100 policemen."

<Public> Dirge says, "They were guessing about 10,000 from the Trade Center."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "People were calling from the rubble with their cell phones."

<Public> Defcon thinks a joint U.S.-Russia invasion of Afghanistan would probably wake them up.

<Public> Ruin says, "And numbers estimated to be in the mid to high thousands for the WTC."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "and the number at the pentagon is espected to rise. I heard coming home from work they expect it to riase to 800. And that is freaky."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "the WTC usually around 9am in the morning have 10 thous a peice in people...who knows how many got out"

<Public> Defcon says, "Anyways, bed."

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "I'd already heard the Pentagon number at 800."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Night."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Later"

<Public> Inferno says, "Me, too. You guys take it easy."

Wed Sep 12 01:59:28 2001

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "If the attack had happened 2 hours later they could have gotten nearly 70 thousand people."

<Public> Dirge expects most people from the WTC will at least be accounted for. I doubt there were many random people in the buildings at the time.

<Public> My neighbor Whiz decides to move to Australia

<Public> Dirge says, "Speaking of moving, what do you folks think about the transportation system? Think it'll actually be active tomorrow, like they say?"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "You should move to somewhere like Luxembourg."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Wait, hold on. It took a group of people an hour to get out by stairs from the 80th floor. ANyone above the 82nd floor was immediatley in trouble. The buildings collapsed a little after an hour after they were hit."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "dude, goto CNN.com. They have film footage fromt he first crash. the firefighters is the interesting part. :)"

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "ALl of the transpoprtation is up and running here in NYC noow. still no planes, but trains buses and stuff.. All the bridges are still close too..I think"

<Public> Dirge says, "The planes, I mean. Nationally."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "Yea, something like that Ruin. I think that those who were ont he 50th got out 10 minutes or so before it came down. the first building, the second one people were out after they saw the fire and debris."

<Public> Tealess Frenzy waves to all. I love you all!

<Admin> Efficiency! Frenzy waves!!

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "There was a guy on NPR who was on the 40th floor and it took him 25 minutes to get out. He says that he wasn't even sure he needed to evacuate - everyone knew something was wrong because they heard the crash and the fire alrms were going off"

<O-Decepticon> El Red Boy Frenzy says, "Later, gang!! I lovey ou guys!"

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Adios, Frenzy."

<Public> Stratosphere says, "later Z."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Later Z!!!"

<Public> Dirge is seriously concerned about what people are going to try against the US next. Somehow I don't expect them to stop here.

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "But his phone and computer were working so he wasn't sure he needed to go. He said by the time he hit the 20th floor there was smoke in the stairwells, when he hit 12 the firefighters were coming up the other direction, and at 9 the stairwells were flooded with water."

<Public> Ruin is going to move to Canada someday in the distant future, so I can grow into a cranky old man and not have to worry about anything like this, when I'm a civvie. "Nobody ever gets pissed off at Canada for anything."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Well, considering they could pull off such a massive attack unnoticed...."

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "If we can get by tomorrow, things should be okay for a while."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "The lights stayed on but they flickered when the second tower was hit."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Lots of people jumped...some jump holding hands..."

<Public> Ruin notes that they got away with it because our defense and early warning systems all center around NBC/WOMD stuff. "Nobody's going to expect a civilian aircraft used as a weapon, let alone an American civilian aircraft. Even after that Clancy novel."

<Public> Ruin says, "This is why Congress needs to quit wasting time and approve the SDI anti-missile defense system."

<Public> Dirge says, "We had ambassadors in Russia discussing the SDI stuff earlier today, before the buildings were hit."

<Public> Ruin says, "Because a couple of guys with shoulder-launched SAMs aren't going to do a bit of good against something with the mass and speed of a 767."

<Public> Dirge says, "So I hear."

<Public> Dirge says, "Even if they -did- shoot down those aircraft, they would've still hit plenty of civilian buildings."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "This is why we need smallpox vaccinations"

Wed Sep 12 02:09:28 2001

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Well, the first one yeah, the sceond had to fly across the harbour. COuld have put that one in the water."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Yes, I dwell on the smallpox thing but I think it's a horrible danger and I tell you what, if I get it I'm killing myself straight up because I'm not going through that."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "But, they were still trying to figure out if the first one was an accidnet or not by the time the second one hit."

<Public> Dirge thinks that by the time everyone realized what was actually going on, it was too late. You can't shoot down a passenger jet because you -think- it might be hijacked.

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Sure you can, Dirge. You're just going to get one hell of a lot of fallout cause of it"

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "And you usually don't wanna shoot down passanger jets either way. :^)"

<Public> Stratosphere is gonna head out all. night.

<Public> Ruin says, "You can't shoot down a passenger jet that big with a Stinger. With all that inertia behind it, it's still going to destroy something."

<Public> Dirge says, "A lot of something, at that."

<Public> Crescendo says, "Who wouldn't want to shoot down a passenger jet carrying N'Sync?"

<Public> Ruin says, "Don't want to, but that doesn't mean you're not going to have to, Pak."

<Public> Drag Strip says, "Someone e-mail me some milk, all the stores are closed. :P"

<Public> Ruin says, "Especially when there isn't really any way to save the passengers, and the terrorists plan on killing them anyways."

<Public> Leader of the Pak-Gor says, "It's easy to say that now, but it all happened so fast and nobody was quite sure what to make of it all then.."

<Public> Ruin feels your pain, DS. "All of the post facilities are closed, so I can't get anything from the PX or Commissary. So I basically get to starve."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Nocafeteria? :)"

<Public> Ruin says, "Closed by the time I got off shift."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Cant order a pizza? :)"

<Public> Ruin says, "Nobody gets on post, so no."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul patspats. "One day shouldnt kill you :)"

<Public> Ruin says, "And of course, my roommate was gracious enough to clean out the fridge before he went on leave."

<Public> Dirge is gonna poof for a bit.

<Public> My neighbor Whiz grr as AOL craps out on her. Didn't want to leave you guys hanging.

<Public> Ruin says, "It won't. But it doesn't mean that I'm not going to complain about it. :)"

<Public> Ruin says, "Plus, I need to get some food in me for whenever I can head down to the Red Cross."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul hehs at her jar of pickles. "I'd run down and give em to ya, but you're a bit out of the way

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Where are you Ruin?"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul kicks the player. "Watch the pronouns"

<Public> Ruin says, "You can mail them."

<Public> Ruin was just about to ask about that myself, Cat. :D

<Public> Drag Strip says, "On a boat?"

<Public> Ruin says, "Ft. Huachuca, AZ."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive lives right out side of Ft.Gordon GA, when I am not in NYC:)

<Public> Ruin did my AIT at Gordon.

<Public> Masterson, Skydive has to go to work in the morning. Why are we even open?? Later guys...

<Public> Kenya Momesa says, "Well, I must go. Adios, amigos."

<Public> Masterson, Skydive says, "Yeah? Cool"

<Public> Masterson, Skydive waves out

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul has different genered chars. :) Sometimes he mixes up who he's playing. :)

<Public> Ruin says, "She mixes up who she's playing? ;>"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "He. :)"

Wed Sep 12 02:19:28 2001

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Bah. Least I dont cosplay :)"

<Public> Drag Strip scratches his head. I thought you were in Europe for some weird reason.

<Public> Ruin says, "Nope. Been there, done that, came back to the States."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz wows, there were 3 hour waits to give blood even here in AZ

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "4 hours waits up here in Edmonton."

<Public> Ruin says, "Yup."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz notes that gas prices went up about 7 cents per gallon and my local station was out of the basic unleaded, you had to get the mid-grade

<Public> Ruin says, "The Red Cross can't keep up with the volunteers, but that's a good thing."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz was checking out United Blood Services

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Yeah...Guilliani basically told people to go home, they had more volunteers then they knew what to do with :) I consider that one of the bright spots of this entire thing"

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Nothing too close to where I work but maybe I could go to one of the hospitals"

<Public> Ruin remembers what a friend of mine told me a long time ago: "It takes the worst in human beings to bring out the best."

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Hmm, there's one on the way to work, I could stop by early"

<Public> My neighbor Whiz would have to eat *gasp* breakfast

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul hehs. "To change to a slightly less gloomy subject. Anyone else notice they're showing new DBZ eps on midnight run? And they're actually GOOD ones?

<Public> Public Nuisance Scandal says, "I didn't think there was any such thing."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "Good ones=Not season long fight scenes :)"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "They were actually kinda..fun. :) Like the original DB series"

Wed Sep 12 02:29:27 2001

<Public> Drag Strip logs off to go get some food from a vending machine or something. I'll be back soon. Take it easy, gang.

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul hehs. "And in other related anime news...I found the original opener to Gotchaman :) Hee.

<Public> My neighbor Whiz is heading out. Gotta get to bed if I'm going to get up in time to hit the blood bank at 7am.

<Guests> Guest has arrived on the MUSH.

<Public> Ruin says, "Science Ninja Team Gatchaman! Wooo!"

<Admin> Whiz waves

<Public> My neighbor Whiz says, "Goodnight"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "I love the little kids singing in the background. :)"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul idly notes to Ruin. "www.bestanime.com :) More show openers/closers then I've seen anywhere else :)"

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul grins. Has a few of the Zoids openers/closers too ;)

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet waves

<Public> Ruin says, "Cool."

Wed Sep 12 02:39:27 2001

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul blinks at the opening music to the Italian version of Gotchaman. Ewwww

<Public> A bucket of oxidated components, Leet says, "Eh? It says everyone is OOC, but no-one's in CC..."

<Public> DIE lizard, DIE! Caterwaul says, "We're hiding"

[reconnect spam, next morning]

<Public> Vortex says, "isolationist policy is flawed and stupid, sorry razor. :)"

<Public> Vortex says, "isolationist policy is what caused World Ward Two."

<Public> Shockwave goes to more classes. Be back around 1:00. Hopefully we can shift the discussion by then. Good luck, everyone.

<Public> Vortex says, "Or helped it on, at least."

<Public> Vortex says, "later Shocks!"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Bye"

<Public> Vortex is gonna log out now too.

<Public> Vortex is gonna go sleep.

<Public> Vortex says, "Night everyone."

<Public> Moonracer gets ready for work. Night Vortex.

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "No what caused WW2 was that the French didn't make sure the Germans didn't rebuild there army."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Like the treaty stated"

<Public> Vortex sighs. Razor, I did a college course on WW2, I know that US isolationist policy was a major factor. :) Anyway, i need sleep. Luck at work moony, I'm glad you we;re hurt or anything. Talk to you later. *hugs*

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw seems to be annoying everyone.

<Public> Vortex says, "Nah, your just angry and venting without thinking. :)"

<Public> Vortex poofs.

<Public> Redshift says, "You have a right to be upset. We understand that."

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I could have dealt with them attacking the Pentagon (in a different way)... At least its a military target... But the attack on civilians and then those assholes cheering for it really got me riled up"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "I support the attacks because they constitute a reaction of the oppressed people against the atrocities of the crue I support the attacks because they constitute a reaction of the opressed people against the cruel. Bin LAden"

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "How are we opressing those people... Shit, the opress us by gouging oil prices"

Wed Sep 12 10:27:49 2001

<Public> Gone naturalistic, Razorclaw says, "Is there a way to see all the commands in a room?"

Wed Sep 12 10:37:53 2001

<O-Militant> Erich Jaeger waves.

<O-Militant> Tatyana says, "hihi"

<Public> Scrapper waves out for work. Take care, all.

<O-Militant> Erich Jaeger says, "how y'all doin?"

Wed Sep 12 10:47:50 2001

<O-Militant> Erich Jaeger kicks Ollin in the shins. "Wake up, you reprobate!"

Wed Sep 12 10:57:49 2001

<O-Militant> Tatyana is tired.

<O-Militant> Tatyana woo's at ictime...almost 3 days til christmas

<O-Militant> Erich Jaeger blinks?

<O-Militant> Erich Jaeger buys Tatty a case of Vodka for Xmas? :)

<O-Militant> Tatyana says, "heh ;)"

<O-Militant> Tatyana is gonna bring her IC kid back today, probably, was gonna wait for Faris to be able to, but Faris is gonna be busy fo a while with RL.

<Wizard> Orca says, "Still no word on joshua access?"

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Today's Events Wed Sep 12 FX

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For everyone, here are some leads on what you can do to (got the phone numbers from foxnews.com):

American Red Cross, cash donations - (800) HELP-NOW

American Red Cross, blood donations - (800) 448-3543 - http://www.redcross.org/donate/give/

Salvation Army, cash donations - (800) SAL-ARMY

Doctors willing to volunteer their help should call (518) 431-7600.

Blood donors in upstate New York may call (800) 448-3543 or (800) 272-4543 donors in the New York City region may call (800) 692-5663 or (800) 933-2566.

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Please Wed Sep 12 Whiz

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I don't know where everyone lives, but if you're in the NYC or DC area, or if you've heard from someone who lives there, please post and let us know that everything is okay. There may be someone who checks in here for word of you and it could be reassuring for them to see a little post saying that you're all right. I am hereby designating BB 20 as a contact board for that purpose. Also, even though I'm deathly afraid, I am going to go give blood tomorrow, and I'll make a donation to the Red Cross as well - it will probably just be something small like $50 but I'm sure they could use it. If you don't have money, volunteer time to help collect or package supplies. Whatever you can. If there is anything that our small community can do, no matter how little it may seem, let's give it a try.

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